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After a few comments that my car is not a bracket car. Some by folks whose opinion has some creditability to it and one or two who does not.

Tell me what makes a drag race car a bracket car,

I figured any car that raced with predicted et that was posted on the car either shoe polish or dail in board. One guy either gets a head start or waits based on the two numbers. The two cars try to get to the finish line first w/o being to quick. Seemed pretty simple. Guess not.

Did not know it had to be built one way and one way only. Well 2 ways with doors or pipe rack with shock and god help it be different.

So what are the requirements?




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I've always figured it's the quickest car wins (ignoring better or worst lights) or you're running on a dial...Whether you put the dial on your window or the class you're running has an index..Either way, you win or lose based on your dial/index (again depending on your light)
To answer your real question, it doesn't matter what class you're running....a racecar is a racecar and drag racing is drag racing...


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Be consistent, .00x lights and run the number makes a bracket car / race car that wins !

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I find the question, "what makes a bracket car?" interesting. To me, it is a mindset from the beginning of the buildup, to do everything possible to make the package mechanically perfect. Starting, idling, part throttle performance, cooling system, electrical system, converter, transmission, rear axle, brakes, everything works in harmony to product a mechanically perfect package. In addition, a mindset that the driver will discipline himself to drive the package to its potential. We do not live and race in a perfect world, so my comments need to be balance with reality, however, one must strive for excellence.

In my mind, the only competition is from within. Consistent routine, consistent performance, consistent reaction, this is the essence of a bracket racer.


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Entering and racing at a bracket race or 2 is a good start
 
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A bottle of shoe polish........ Falling of chair laughing


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A bottle of shoe polish........ Falling of chair laughing


This is exactly what I would have posted, except that ET cutoffs are becoming more and more widespread. Meaning that there are now maximum ET dial ins, at least there are in this area. Ironically, it seems there are no such cutoffs at big buck events. Frown Take care. Tom Worthington


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Entering and racing at a bracket race or 2 is a good start


So having done 3 last year makes me an overachiever? LOL Can not count this years since it said entering and racing in and not just entering 2 and bbreaking something like the battery or belt drive assembly.




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Tell me what makes a drag race car a bracket car,

So what are the requirements?



Shoe polish/dial-in board isn't far from thruth!

IMO, it's more about driver than the race vehicle, although the type of vehicle does matter. That being said, I have won with a rental car, tow trucks, drag quads, numerous door cars & a 7 sec. truck. My son has won with the quads, motorcycle & door cars. Any vehicle can be made to win, but some vehicles take a lot more effort than the others.

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Any vehicle can be used in a bracket race but to me a bracket car is specialized for the job.

Made to hot lap. Something you can see out of easily. Something that maximizes traction. Needs ZERO between rounds maintenance. I think you should be able to go 10-12 rounds in a day with nothing but fuel, drain the vacuum tank and possibly battery charger although I can’t remember the last time I used one. JMO



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easy peasy!

14 rounds 3 days ago, nothing but fuel and charge 12 of 14 rounds. Those other 2 rounds no time to stop at the pit so no fuel, no charge.

Trans temp saw a high of 190.

He’ll I went 14 rounds 20 years ago in my Chevelle, enroute to my 1st Wally win. NBD
 
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Ok on the 14 rnds. Never seen a race go 14 rounds, although there could be with 3 rnd buybacks. Never seen an 8 rnd race that you had a small amount of time until last 3 or 4 rnds.

While I understand the need to be minimum maintenance between rounds. If zero time then that's fine. If any amount of time I will have to work on something even if it is just pull vc's and looking around or look thru nozzles. Just can not sit there for any length of time and not work on car. There is a reason I carry aluminum polish to track.LOL If you see me sitting it normally means I am looking at car and going over things in my mind or designing something for a new project. Just the way I am programed hence the SN.

ok kepp them coming. So far one thing that would require change to fit the bill.




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A damn firesuit I can get off in less than 15 minutes would help.LOL this Simpson takes me forever to get the pants off. Although required for car I am thinking the 20 suit too much.




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What makes a car a racecar? You have to race it. Lately my car is just car in a garage as I haven't raced it. Same thing with a bracket car if it's not racing at bracket races it's not a bracket car.
 
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Not sure about that. I could enter a Top alcohol dragster race(tech aside) But this thing would not be a top alcohol dragster by couple of seconds at best. A/fuel would be easy except that cpl second thing.LOL Just saying.

I get your point and would have been disappointed if Afew did not mention needs to be on track in some sort of comment. Working on others race cars and scheduling to meet local tracks limited bracket stuff make PIA.




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Originally posted by Larry Woodfin:
I find the question, "what makes a bracket car?" interesting. To me, it is a mindset from the beginning of the buildup, to do everything possible to make the package mechanically perfect. Starting, idling, part throttle performance, cooling system, electrical system, converter, transmission, rear axle, brakes, everything works in harmony to product a mechanically perfect package. In addition, a mindset that the driver will discipline himself to drive the package to its potential. We do not live and race in a perfect world, so my comments need to be balance with reality, however, one must strive for excellence.

In my mind, the only competition is from within. Consistent routine, consistent performance, consistent reaction, this is the essence of a bracket racer.


While I agree about the racer part. The reason did not ask about racer is I never claimed to be a bracket racer. I am top alcohol racer w/o the money to run one and play with other cars. Getting paid to work on top alcohol cars does not hurt either. Bracket racing is about all I might be able to afford other than nostalgia which is very limited on this side of the country.

Before a bunch of panties wad up . I did not say bracket racing is lacking in challenges or different skill sets. Did not say it is any less competitive.In fact more so in lots of ways,It is all drag racing just different goals,

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Chris there is someone bracket racing a funny car in Div2 and has been for a long time. I was just at the WFC and although foot brake saw an Anglia, a 62 409 Chev, a straight 6 57 Chev, several AMC cars, the list goes on, also MY 65 OLDS 442 that is Olds powered. So whats it take? I say about anything but YOU better be able to drive it.
 
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Guess running a funny car as a bracket car means he is not one man team. LOL can just see a guy climbing in and out of the roof hatch to get ready for a run. Guess he never got memo either on what qualify's.




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If I remember correctly, one of Scotty Richardson's first set of bracket racing training wheels was an older ex funny car. This would have been at Green Valley,I-20, and Hallsville dragway. Don't remember the power plant could have been a mild big block. He had success early and well you know the rest.
 
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easy peasy!

14 rounds 3 days ago, nothing but fuel and charge 12 of 14 rounds. Those other 2 rounds no time to stop at the pit so no fuel, no charge.

Trans temp saw a high of 190.

He’ll I went 14 rounds 20 years ago in my Chevelle, enroute to my 1st Wally win. NBD



2 races in a single day on the 14 rounds?

We have those fairly often. Winning both in one day is fun.



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