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Sorry, I disagree. The intolerance is ALL from the pro-vaccine crowd. Virtually all people I know who choose not to be vaccinated or are hesitant to be vaccinated don't give a damn what other people choose to do, they simply want to be free to make their choice and be left alone.

I agree !!! Thats certainly the way it's been in the education world. I'm seeing the tide turning slightly though as many boosted people I work with are getting the covid worse ...........

Our illustrious left wing NJ Governor Murphy said yesterday he thought those that refused to get vaccinated were as dangerous as those who drive drunk.

Now that's just ridiculous especially when you examine the stats with this virus and vaccinations....

I am fully vaccinated but not boosted.....was not for it at the beginning but was swayed to get the shots by folks around me....and am happy I did.....

You don't want the jab....fine......your choice....but not getting it can cause you plenty of difficulties with how things are going just being allowed in some places like a Doctors office...

I went to one today and had to call from the parking lot and answer questions before I could even enter the building...

I was asked if I was fully vaccinated.....Don't know what I would have been told if I said NO......

Was getting an Echo test.....

This is 38 min synopsis of a 5 hr forum Senator Ron Johnson (WI) had yesterday. The medical experts (Fauci) from the CDC and NIH were invited but didn’t show. What is exposed is sickening and disgusting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jMONZMuS2U

I was in the cardiac care unit after suffering a heart attack. Less than 24 hours earlier had a life saving cardiac cath procedure.

My lungs were filling with fluid and I was struggling to breath and wheezing and coughing badly

My moron male nurse on duty that night was more interested in partying out in the nurses station and dismissed my calls for help as anxiety.

I asked for anything to stop the coughing. Took forever for him to find a cough drop

I insisted he listen to my lungs. The idiot heard nothing

My son was there with me and cornered the nurse outside

He finally called a doctor who immediately told him to give me some pills and injection to get the fluid out of my lungs. It took a while but worked

I did not sleep for at least 36 hours maybe more like 48

I was moved to a different hospital 2 days later.

Night and day difference there. The best care you could ask for overall. A level 1 trauma center and high level heart care center

Bottom line is there are huge differences in care at different hospitals

The first hospital is a real nice place and I go there for cardiac rehab excercise sessions 3 times a week

That male nurse and some others in that CC Unit really were not good.

I’ve had some other less than good experiences in various hospitals over the years

Our health care system is just like everything else.
Very variable and not always the best experiences

The first hospitals emergency staff cardiac cath lab and doctors on call saved my life so for that I am grateful. The after care was not so good and I was way better cared for at the second hospital.

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Originally posted by HS professor:

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Sorry, I disagree. The intolerance is ALL from the pro-vaccine crowd. Virtually all people I know who choose not to be vaccinated or are hesitant to be vaccinated don't give a damn what other people choose to do, they simply want to be free to make their choice and be left alone.

I agree !!! Thats certainly the way it's been in the education world. I'm seeing the tide turning slightly though as many boosted people I work with are getting the covid worse ...........

One of the talking heads on TV said anyone who refused to get the required vaccine is a threat to public safety and should be locked away for life. They should not be allowed to go to school, restaurants or any where as they should not have ANY rights.

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I was asked if I was fully vaccinated.....Don't know what I would have been told if I said NO......

Is that considered not fully vaccinated if you are not boosted within the timeline they lay out? I'm wondering how that is considered.

As far as hospital service: You are so right. Just like everyplace else, some organizations have navigated covid better than others and the level of service is certainly affected some places. The individual helping you sure makes a difference today as well since they will keep even workers who would have been fired immediately during non covid times.

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Originally posted by SlyFox:

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Originally posted by Bucky:
What gets me, from both sides is the intolerance.

Sorry, I disagree. The intolerance is ALL from the pro-vaccine crowd. Virtually all people I know who choose not to be vaccinated or are hesitant to be vaccinated don't give a damn what other people choose to do, they simply want to be free to make their choice and be left alone. It's the pro-vaccine side (the left) where all the extremism, intolerance, and hate comes from, and the demands that everyone comply or else. This is proven by the statistics posted above about how many would like to see the unvaccinated confined to their homes, have their kids taken away, etc, etc.

Your blind. Similar to most things based around political beliefs, the vaccine crowds share public beliefs equally no matter what side your on. Since I am a conservative, most of my friends are conservatives. On FB I can't hardly go a day without reading about how terrible vaccinated people are and how vaccinated people should be forced to move somewhere else.....etc. It's all good though because it just shows me the people that aren't really friends. On a side note, I have NEVER had to show proof or tell anyone that I am vaccinated......or not, so from my position, the conservatives are complaining a lot more than anyone else I've seen.

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Originally posted by Mike Nitzsche:

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Originally posted by SlyFox:

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Originally posted by Bucky:
What gets me, from both sides is the intolerance.

Sorry, I disagree. The intolerance is ALL from the pro-vaccine crowd. Virtually all people I know who choose not to be vaccinated or are hesitant to be vaccinated don't give a damn what other people choose to do, they simply want to be free to make their choice and be left alone. It's the pro-vaccine side (the left) where all the extremism, intolerance, and hate comes from, and the demands that everyone comply or else. This is proven by the statistics posted above about how many would like to see the unvaccinated confined to their homes, have their kids taken away, etc, etc.

On a side note, I have NEVER had to show proof or tell anyone that I am vaccinated......or not, so from my position, the conservatives are complaining a lot more than anyone else I've seen.

Well,I live in Illinois and in Cook County,you must show a vaccine card to enter a restaurant.
I don't eat out in Cook County anymore.I can provide the card,but refuse to show it.
Someone can be fully vaccinated and still spread it,so the whole thing makes absolutely no sense.

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Someone can be fully vaccinated and still spread it,so the whole thing makes absolutely no sense.

In this case it's logic that makes no sense. You have to look through the logical and understand it's power and control. It's much more sinister than what's on the surface. Pure and simple no question. They endlessly bombard you with illogical BS virtually every other day. After a while you can't believe your lying eyes.

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Originally posted by Mike Nitzsche:
Your blind. Similar to most things based around political beliefs, the vaccine crowds share public beliefs equally no matter what side your on. Since I am a conservative, most of my friends are conservatives. On FB I can't hardly go a day without reading about how terrible vaccinated people are and how vaccinated people should be forced to move somewhere else.....etc.

Best thing to do would be stay off Fakebook....

First there was this division between vaccinated and unvaccinated.

Now,some of these liberals are not happy unless you are boosted,or as they call it,"fully vaccinated ".

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Originally posted by 442OLDS:

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Originally posted by Mike Nitzsche:

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Originally posted by SlyFox:

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Originally posted by Bucky:
What gets me, from both sides is the intolerance.

Sorry, I disagree. The intolerance is ALL from the pro-vaccine crowd. Virtually all people I know who choose not to be vaccinated or are hesitant to be vaccinated don't give a damn what other people choose to do, they simply want to be free to make their choice and be left alone. It's the pro-vaccine side (the left) where all the extremism, intolerance, and hate comes from, and the demands that everyone comply or else. This is proven by the statistics posted above about how many would like to see the unvaccinated confined to their homes, have their kids taken away, etc, etc.

On a side note, I have NEVER had to show proof or tell anyone that I am vaccinated......or not, so from my position, the conservatives are complaining a lot more than anyone else I've seen.

Well,I live in Illinois and in Cook County,you must show a vaccine card to enter a restaurant.
I don't eat out in Cook County anymore.I can provide the card,but refuse to show it.
Someone can be fully vaccinated and still spread it,so the whole thing makes absolutely no sense.

Never had to show anything in a restaurant around here, so your complaining about your states problems, I totally agree a vaccine mandate is stupid. Yes, it's widely known that a person can catch and transmit covid after being vaccinated, but I chose to get vaccinated because it has a high probability to lessen the effects of covid. I don't care if anyone else gets vaccinated, I don't. I have friends that have died from this. So maybe I take it a little more seriously.

Reality is there is no right or wrong answer.
The decision SHOULD be up to the person and NOT done because someone told you too.

It should be done very simply, if you are susceptible to medical issues and you feel you want it, go get it, if not, don't, VERY SIMPLE.

Mike I can relate.
We actually have a restaurant around here that required a mask to get in and wanted to see our vaccine status.
They lost a wedding party of around 25 people and we all just LAUGHED and walked across the street MASKLESS.
They lost almost $4000 between food and drinks that one night, not to mention none of us will ever go back there again. If they want to make stupid rules they better be tough.

As the saying goes "you better be tough if you're going to be stupid".

Hey, let's not forget to get the Omicron vaccine coming in the next few weeks and let's not forget the NEW Stealth variant working its way through the USA.
https://nypost.com/2022/01/26/...-omicron-subvariant/

Enough enough.
The main reason this is out there is because this is the ONLY thing Brandon is in favorable standing with.
He's a disaster in all other categories.
And if it wasn't for Trump (vaccines) he would have NOTHING in favor for him.

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Never had to show anything in a restaurant around here, so your complaining about your states problems

County. It's Chicago. See there is Chicago, and the rest of the state. Things are and always have been coo coo in Chi Town.

Frank, you nailed it except for the part where he is favorable with the virus. The libs thought they would elect him and this would all be done. Except for the few who thought it would be endless crackdown, which he isn't doing either. The dude can't and isn't going to win.

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Originally posted by pentastarrail:
Reality is there is no right or wrong answer.
The decision SHOULD be up to the person and NOT done because someone told you too.

It should be done very simply, if you are susceptible to medical issues and you feel you want it, go get it, if not, don't, VERY SIMPLE.

Mike I can relate.
We actually have a restaurant around here that required a mask to get in and wanted to see our vaccine status.
They lost a wedding party of around 25 people and we all just LAUGHED and walked across the street MASKLESS.
They lost almost $4000 between food and drinks that one night, not to mention none of us will ever go back there again. If they want to make stupid rules they better be tough.

As the saying goes "you better be tough if you're going to be stupid".

Hey, let's not forget to get the Omicron vaccine coming in the next few weeks and let's not forget the NEW Stealth variant working its way through the USA.
https://nypost.com/2022/01/26/...-omicron-subvariant/

Enough enough.
The main reason this is out there is because this is the ONLY thing Brandon is in favorable standing with.
He's a disaster in all other categories.
And if it wasn't for Trump (vaccines) he would have NOTHING in favor for him.

I totally agree that it should be a private decision. You said "there is no right or wrong answer" then called their answer stupid. LOL

I think maybe both sides need a time out.

LGB is an idiot. Always has been, always will be.

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Originally posted by Phil Dees:
So Mike, should I quit my job rather than take the vaccine?

i'm not. just because someone who is paranoid of going outside says I should. at the end of the day my trust and faith does not lie in the people who think they are in charge. I know who is in charge therefore I am not too worried about it.

ep-the cone deal has sent retro over the edge.

The only thing over the edge is you and the rest of lemmings who bent over for Dr. Fauci and Bill Gates, because your brainwashing told you they were "in charge".

You and your kind are prime examples of how the nazi's pulled the wool over the eye's of the German people.

Some really good posts here.


I was reminded by a good buddy who’s watching here… never comments.
; The difference today is people jump on rights and privileges bandwagon.
What happened to obligations and responsibilities?

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Some really good posts here.


I was reminded by a good buddy who’s watching here… never comments.
; The difference today is people jump on rights and privileges bandwagon.
What happened to obligations and responsibilities?

Obligations and responsibilities?

Let's say a track was tired of oil downs and diapers were not always working.

They MANDATED that in order to race,you had to drain all of the oil out of your engine.

Would you oblige because they said it was the responsible thing to do?

Or would you say,NO!

Ya killin me Smalls you know that answer!

I’m saying there are a ton more rights today and privileges verses responsibility and some kind of obligation.

Sweden 1500 deaths per million

America 2600 deaths per million.

1.8 Swedish kids went to school no masks, no deaths.

Sweden never shutdown.

Truth & Facts matter.