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Originally posted by Richard Hammond:

What kind of racing do you do? Have you ever been to a big money race? How long do you think it takes to run almost 500 cars?

I've raced big money races. Is 50K big money?

I know it takes a lot longer to run if you don't have any cars going down the track. Did you watch any of the race? Are you there racing?

Wouldn't it be better to have cars going down the track instead of waiting to finish a race to completion.They started today(Fri) with finishing up 2nd round of Thursdays race. Putting money on top of money is fine if weather forces your hand. No excuse if the race is run poorly.


I'm not looking for an argument. Just saying what I'm thinking.
Fern has it right. Team Fern!!!

The only problem I see is Kyle telling everyone that the race is capped at 400 cars. Post all over social media to don’t even show up at the gate. You won’t get in. How’d all of the other cars get in? And you know having 500 cars buybacks and double entries and an 11pm curfew is going to make it impossible to finish the race. I’m all for promoters making as much money as they can. But you have to draw the line somewhere.

I agree.

My gripe would be the down time Thursday. The previous days race was run to completion before they started first round.

Cletter and Victor should buy some go-karts and let the racers run the Freedom Factory!

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Originally posted by pauley:
Yall just dont get it. It is how they do it in the big leagues.

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I'm told this is where all the hitters are

There's winners and donaters.

For some it's the time at the track and the weather. For others it's winning.

But just had 20 minutes of dead time with 11 cars left.

That has to be 15 pairs going down the track in 20 minutes. Michael Beard would know. He knows the math.

Looks like they are going to finish the race before starting todays 1st round again today. Asinine. More dead time. How much does SFG profit on his decisions? He has to have a spreadsheet for this.

There will be less racers 1st round since some I know have already left. They can't race to Sunday night! SFG making more money! You go Girl!

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I guess they can run Sunday. I remember finishing a race at 7am and starting the next one at 9. But they all have to many entries anymore it seems.

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Originally posted by M120:
There's winners and donaters.

For some it's the time at the track and the weather. For others it's winning.

But just had 20 minutes of dead time with 11 cars left.

That has to be 15 pairs going down the track in 20 minutes. Michael Beard would know. He knows the math.

Looks like they are going to finish the race before starting todays 1st round again today. Asinine. More dead time. How much does SFG profit on his decisions? He has to have a spreadsheet for this.

There will be less racers 1st round since some I know have already left. They can't race to Sunday night! SFG making more money! You go Girl!

Today is the last day of racing. They split the payout from Saturday with the Thursday and Fridays race. And they’re running first round now.

They're going to run as far as they can today and finish up tomorrow or Sunday depending on the weather.

Heard Cory Gulliti just cracked them for $75,000 for the Thursday race that just finished.

Looks like rain all day Saturday. They got through 2nd round Friday night and will continue when the weather clears up today, but most likely Sunday.

What toad 1 said NO door cars past the start line it's monkey see money do and you don't have to drive thru the water and back up into to it again if you cant do a water burn out in a door car I have no answer for you.

I run 4.90s in a 2700 lb door car.I am going to burn out across the line...U wont wait on me.

Time management was the biggest issue this weekend. Starting late, some staff was late to track very 1st day. Once time is lost it can't be recovered. The inability to call cars on time, then the cars not coming when called only magnified the time issues.

SFG takes alot of flack, the most flack. They hold some responsibility and accountability. Not everything was out of their control. They have been running races for years and fumbled alot at this race, unfortunately looking like rookies. Overbooking only caused more time mismanagement problem. NO race is perfect. We had 4 days to race with weather after that and barely completed 3 races.

Kyle admits there's room for improvements, and hopefully, they will occur. Only time will tell. I have been to SFG races that flowed so much better than this one and plan on attending more if given the opportunity.

FB clearly had alot if opinions...racers bashed SFG, promoters bashing other promoters. Was a pitiful sight to see IMO. Let's agree bracket racing is far from dead and people travel in December to Florida to race these races because they WANT to.

Congratulations to all the finalists! Was another good paying weekend for the Gulitti camp! Proud of my son! Grateful!

I try real hard not to bash tracks. Two things. 1. They are not making that much money for the investment involved. 2. If we bash all the tracks and get them shut down where you going to race?

With that said how the track is ran does play a part in my decision where to race. Currently my favorite track as far as traction, parking, pits, restrooms, distance runs their program very slow. I hate that, when we raced at Texas Raceway they ran the program very quickly and got it done. They had a midnight curfew on Friday and Saturday and every time they made it.

Texas Raceway is gone and very few others are able to run cars down the track like that. Maybe I am somewhat spoiled but I like to go out there, race. load up and go home. I am not out there to hear the announcer talk about his receding hairline or his cat. During the race I want a little down time as possible.

Not bashing any tracks but that should be the goal of the track to get as many cars down the track as quickly and safely as possible and go home. No need in having your crew out in Texas heat from Noon to 7 in the morning when the race could have been done by eleven that night. Wasted time, wasted money and frustrating.

I am 60 miles from BMP and it is foggy again. Welcome to Florida!

Is not good to see issues with races. People need to put things in perspective, is it better to have a few rough edges or no tracks at all? A few rough edges can be smoothed over, once track is gone it usually stays gone.

Congrats to the winners.

Last 3 times out, my car had major issues. Went to final round 3 races ago (local track), last 2 could not make 1st round. I need to pop my mechanic (me).

The 4 door Tempest is my hero of week.

Will try to be done for New Year race.

Otherwise Merry Chirstmas and Happy New Year to all!

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Originally posted by M120:
I been watching while I can. I was supposed to be there but I have a claim in at Spirit airlines and Priceline!

Anyway to run a race to completion the next day seems asinine. Mix them in first round and buyback. Even if you put the finalist into 2nd round, I don't think many would mind.
Unless a lot of people closed the Peek A Boo lounge last night, I'd be pissed starting first round at 1:07. I'd probably be the one closing the lounge though!

So pick aboo lunge still there, Man I have dropped alot of mkoney there. 1st trip was 1991.

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Originally posted by TORQIN:I run 4.90s in a 2700 lb door car.I am going to burn out across the line...U wont wait on me.

Does that include the dry hop……. lol………couldn’t resist!

I watched /followed the entire race and what Chris said I agree. I’ve traveled/ raced SFG for years, like their events and will continue to attend given the event location in the future.

It’s not the burnout or water box procedures that seem to take the time away from the race in my opinion. The time it takes some drivers to get into the beams after a burnout is insane.

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Originally posted by racerdude2054:
It’s not the burnout or water box procedures that seem to take the time away from the race in my opinion. The time it takes some drivers to get into the beams after a burnout is insane.

100% agree, Bracket races should and do move much quicker than they did at BMP last week. They really need to work on getting people up to the starting line and down the track more quickly.

Also, as far as all the bashing goes, I think people are being a bit too protective of promoters. I've never promoted a race, I don't sign the checks, and I don't pretend to know what it takes to do so. That being said, these races cannot be void of criticism. If they are imperfect or run poorly, they should be criticized. At the end of the day, though I know people don't do it in the most tactful way, we all want bracket racing to be great and these types of marquee events to be an epic spectacle of racing and competition so concerns and critiques should be voiced to make them better. To me, it's ludicrous to protect an incompetent promoter or poorly run facility just for the sake of protecting them. If you get screwed out of money or find a race you attend is a waste of time, that should be publicly noted so that others can be aware and promoters/tracks can improve their program. I want to protect tracks, but if it sucks, it sucks. Make it better. Not saying that was the complete case here, but it seems that objectively SFG dropped the ball in a few ways last week.

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It’s not the burnout or water box procedures that seem to take the time away from the race in my opinion. The time it takes some drivers to get into the beams after a burnout is insane.

100% agree, Bracket races should and do move much quicker than they did at BMP last week. They really need to work on getting people up to the starting line and down the track more quickly.

Not everyone can be a Kenny or Cory pre-staging. How does one speed up a Matt or a Dink?

Keep the bees and flys out of their cars. Only thing I know of to make your hands move around so much while staging. Could be a snake in there I suppose!