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Here's my thoughts about policing drug use and cheating at a lot big dollar races. A lot of drivers, in the final rounds, are the same group. They're most of the time house cars,(not all races) so do think a promoter is going to disqualify any of them?
I'm not trying to say this is true, it's just a thought.
 
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Here's my thoughts about policing drug use and cheating at a lot big dollar races. A lot of drivers, in the final rounds, are the same group. They're most of the time house cars,(not all races) so do think a promoter is going to disqualify any of them?
I'm not trying to say this is true, it's just a thought.


No house car driver will be impaired to the point anyone could justifiably claim they were, evidenced.

So this is a none issue.

On a separate issue, ya never wanna rat a racer out who has had too much to drink, and is impaired. You wanna help him by talking to him, taking him out of continuing on, I've seen this work.
 
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So let me get this straight, you want promoters to drug test when they dont enforce any kind of safety rules or any kind of tech on cars until late in the rounds.......


Head of nail...meet hammer!

As I recall, it was said on a bracket racing podcast that many rules can't be enforced as it's a different culture in certain areas of the country and those racers would simply not show up if rules were enforced.

If a promoter can't force a driver to wear long pants in a 4.30 dragster, they will never be able to enforce a drug/alcohol policy.


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Has anyone ever been caught using these drugs?



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Has anyone ever been caught using these drugs?


I think the theme of the topic is you can't catch someone doing something if you're not actually looking to do so. In other words, it's blatantly happening and being ignored.


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So let me get this straight, you want promoters to drug test when they dont enforce any kind of safety rules or any kind of tech on cars until late in the rounds.......


Head of nail...meet hammer!

As I recall, it was said on a bracket racing podcast that many rules can't be enforced as it's a different culture in certain areas of the country and those racers would simply not show up if rules were enforced.

If a promoter can't force a driver to wear long pants in a 4.30 dragster, they will never be able to enforce a drug/alcohol policy.


Exactly! Next issue is, most people go to these races, not because they are cheating, but so they dont have to hassle with people telling them what they can/cannot do. Would having a drug test program kill it? NO, but nobody is going to take a chance on losing alot in entries. Dont care who you are, 1000 bucks, is a 1000 bucks, and nobody is going to turn that away, unless its going to cost them more than that.


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So let me get this straight, you want promoters to drug test when they dont enforce any kind of safety rules or any kind of tech on cars until late in the rounds.......


Head of nail...meet hammer!

As I recall, it was said on a bracket racing podcast that many rules can't be enforced as it's a different culture in certain areas of the country and those racers would simply not show up if rules were enforced.

If a promoter can't force a driver to wear long pants in a 4.30 dragster, they will never be able to enforce a drug/alcohol policy.


Exactly! Next issue is, most people go to these races, not because they are cheating, but so they dont have to hassle with people telling them what they can/cannot do. Would having a drug test program kill it? NO, but nobody is going to take a chance on losing alot in entries. Dont care who you are, 1000 bucks, is a 1000 bucks, and nobody is going to turn that away, unless its going to cost them more than that.


I'm sure I'm not interpreting what you are saying here. But what I'm reading is that people mostly go to these big money races not because of the large risk/reward, not because of the level of competition, but rather because there are few rules? I don't know. Maybe you are exactly spot on, which means even more reason for me to not attend.


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So let me get this straight, you want promoters to drug test when they dont enforce any kind of safety rules or any kind of tech on cars until late in the rounds.......


Head of nail...meet hammer!

As I recall, it was said on a bracket racing podcast that many rules can't be enforced as it's a different culture in certain areas of the country and those racers would simply not show up if rules were enforced.

If a promoter can't force a driver to wear long pants in a 4.30 dragster, they will never be able to enforce a drug/alcohol policy.


Exactly! Next issue is, most people go to these races, not because they are cheating, but so they dont have to hassle with people telling them what they can/cannot do. Would having a drug test program kill it? NO, but nobody is going to take a chance on losing alot in entries. Dont care who you are, 1000 bucks, is a 1000 bucks, and nobody is going to turn that away, unless its going to cost them more than that.

Again, it's all about the money!! No one cares about rules, safety, house cars, cheating, yada, yada, yada.
 
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Has anyone ever been caught using these drugs?


I think the theme of the topic is you can't catch someone doing something if you're not actually looking to do so. In other words, it's blatantly happening and being ignored.


That may well be what it evolved to but I have seen posts in this thread alluding to the fact that posters know it is being used and it sounds as if they know who is using it. If you are going to those races and as Green1 said, you know and say nothing you are just as guilty.



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People overly focused on performance enchanting drugs in this sport are probably just fishing for something else to pin their L's on. If lack of focus is why you're sporting an .050 RT average, something else is wrong. Maybe you just aren't that good and need to practice? Hard pill to swallow but that's my problem.

Mark Mcgwire hit home runs because he had a perfect swing. He hit them 500' because he was juiced to the moon.
 
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If it didn't make him better, why did McGwire use performance enhancers?
 
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If it didn't make him better, why did McGwire use performance enhancers?


Because fans want to see 500' home runs. "Traditional baseball" doesn't sell tickets, Mark Mcgwire's do.

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People overly focused on performance enchanting drugs in this sport are probably just fishing for something else to pin their L's on. If lack of focus is why you're sporting an .050 RT average, something else is wrong. Maybe you just aren't that good and need to practice? Hard pill to swallow but that's my problem.

Mark Mcgwire hit home runs because he had a perfect swing. He hit them 500' because he was juiced to the moon.


I have no issue with my level of success. I really don't have interest in the travel to big money events. That said.....wrong is wrong....correct?


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He hit 49 home runs his first full year. He didn’t need PEDs to hit home runs. He needed them to KEEP hitting home runs as he aged. It also decreases the recovery time whether it be back to back games or coming back from injury.

No matter the reason it was wrong.



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People overly focused on performance enchanting drugs in this sport are probably just fishing for something else to pin their L's on. If lack of focus is why you're sporting an .050 RT average, something else is wrong. Maybe you just aren't that good and need to practice? Hard pill to swallow but that's my problem.

Mark Mcgwire hit home runs because he had a perfect swing. He hit them 500' because he was juiced to the moon.


I have no issue with my level of success. I really don't have interest in the travel to big money events. That said.....wrong is wrong....correct?


I didn't say taking them was right or wrong. I said people who are focused on performance enhancing drugs in this sport are probably looking for excuses to why they lost. The rest focus on improving their own program. There are people out there, and I'm sure we all know them, who spend 10x more effort trying to call out cheaters, or in this case PED users (if you can even say that), than they do trying to get their own program decent.
 
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