quote:

Originally posted by RPROGAS:
The number ONE topic during the last Presidential Election was “Fix the Economy”. In the one year since Trump took Office the DOW has increased more than 6200 points,

Bob

Bob after yesterday make that number closer to 6,400 .... but who’s counting

Think about the hundreds of thousands of Democrats who have profited fron Trumps Economic accomplishments say nothing positive but continue to trash him as if he was Satan. Now there is a sign of ZERO character.

On another note:

Check out the move that Amazon is about to make and the huge increase in jobs it will bring back to the US from overseas locations. Oddly, the vast majority of possible new sites are NOT in California, how strange.......really!! You can expect another gain in the DOW.

Ya reading that Governor Moonbeam!

Obviously he’s more interested and too busy protecting criminals (Sanctuary State) rather than the legal citizens of California. Commit a crime, get a free cell phone and a ticket to Disneyland.

One more despicable MORON!

Bob

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The Bull market is 103 months old.
Trump has been in office for 11+ months.

Who gets credit for the other 92 months?

This should get good...


Dan

Lets boil it down to basic facts

The 1st year Obama was in office the Dow plummeted a frightening 33%/4000 points...
The market did start to pick up again and averaged a little over 1700 points growth a year for each of the next 7yrs he was in office...

The Dow rose 2000 points just from the the time Trump was elected until he actually took office...That's
200 points in 2 months MORE than Obama averaged in each YEAR of office...

Now, after a full year of Trump serving in the White House, the DOW has rose 6000 points...vs Obamas 1700 average yearly growth...

I won't even go into comparisons to Obamas 1st year in office vs Trumps 1st year....oh he11, yes I will... Obama lost 33%....Trump gained 30%...

So, does this answer your questions on what has been happening in the markets the last 108-ish months?

Glad I could help.....

Disclaimer....

I just took about 2mins and through this together to answer your question. So there may be errors in my math in places..
I welcome corrections if needed..

For the current percentages of market gain to merely equal those that were achieved during the Obama years the DOW will need to climb to (at or about) 47,590 within the next seven years.

If that happens; When that happens; only then will the percentage of gain during the period of March 2009 through January 2017 be EQUALED. The Dow at 47,000+ is a lofty goal. If achieved, great. If surpassed, even better.



Dan

quote:

Originally posted by Mad Dog:
For the current percentages of market gain to merely equal those that were achieved during the Obama years the DOW will need to climb to (at or about) 47,590 within the next seven years.

If that happens; When that happens; only then will the percentage of gain during the period of March 2009 through January 2017 be EQUALED. The Dow at 47,000+ is a lofty goal. If achieved, great. If surpassed, even better.



Dan

interesting, Obama was President in Jan 09 why did you cherry pick March 09? The way you did it left off a 1100 point decline that took place after obama took office and only counted the gains.

Joe

The point of my discussion was about the current bull market trend. That started in March 2009...

I acknowledge the fact the market did decline as Obama took office. In March of 2009 that changed. That upward trend continued to the last day of Obama's administration. It continues today as well...

I can acknowledge what others refuse to...
The truth...


Dan

"For the current percentages of market gain to merely equal those that were achieved during the Obama years the DOW will need to climb to (at or about) 47,590 within the next seven years."

If that happens; When that happens; only then will the percentage of gain during the period of March 2009 through January 2017 be EQUALED. The Dow at 47,000+ is a lofty goal. If achieved, great. If surpassed, even better.



I answered your exact question as it was presented by you..
I provided proof with facts to back it up...
Apparently you didn't like that answer, so you switched it up and started asking "what if" about the future.
It seems you CAN'T acknowledge what others refuse to...
The truth...

I have no answers for your 2nd post because I can't predict the future...

quote:

Originally posted by sr4440:
interesting, Obama was President in Jan 09 why did you cherry pick March 09? The way you did it left off a 1100 point decline that took place after obama took office and only counted the gains.

Great point! I'm sure that 1100 point decline was due to the disastrous economic policies that Obama put in place during his first 40 days in office.

I'm not an Obama guy by any means, but come on!

quote:

Originally posted by imakehp:

I answered your exact question as it was presented by you..

**RE-read the post. The question was regarding who gets credit for 92 months of the 103 month old Bull Market? If the current administration is being credited (taking credit) for the past 11+ months, then who gets credit for the previous 92 months of upward movement?


I provided proof with facts to back it up...

**Proof of what? Your statement is a response that had ZERO to do with my (original post). There was nothing in my post that challenged what the current administration had done.


Apparently you didn't like that answer, so you switched it up and started asking "what if" about the future.

**Apparently your definition of answer is completely different than what most would define as an answer. It was not an answer at all. Nothing in my post posed the question, "what if"? You're apparently seeing words that are not written in my posts...


It seems you CAN'T acknowledge what others refuse to...
The truth...

**So you do agree, "others" refuse to acknowledge the truth? Is that what you are attempting to say? Difficult to make sense of your edit to my statement...



I have no answers for your 2nd post because I can't predict the future...

**There was no question asked in my 2nd post...



Dan

much of what you are all making claims of is essentially saying there is a zero lag time between administrations for policies to take effect, budgets to be changed, and the market to reflect those changes

hypothetically: If the market had taken a down turn shortly after trump took office then trump supporters would currently be saying that trump inherited a mess from the Obama administration

obama voters are probably currently saying the market is still doing good from policies the obama administration implemented

It is probably a little too early into a 4 year term to go ahead and give trump the pat on the back even though the market is doing great under him as president at this current time. I hope it continues to do so

What did Obama do to help the stock market?

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Originally posted by Bucky:
What did Obama do to help the stock market?

What did Obama do to help ANY AMERICAN citizen? Not talking ILLEGAL ALIENS, Muslim Terrorists or Black lives matter?

quote:

Originally posted by Bucky:
What did Obama do to help the stock market?

i am far from an obama supporter, but the stock market did increase while obama was in office... didn't it?

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Originally posted by racerdude2054:

quote:

Originally posted by Bucky:
What did Obama do to help the stock market?

i am far from an obama supporter, but the stock market did increase while obama was in office... didn't it?

It did. But there was about only one way for it to go. It had hit rock bottom. But if we are going to give him credit, then what did he do to cause it?

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Originally posted by racerdude2054:

quote:

Originally posted by Bucky:
What did Obama do to help the stock market?

i am far from an obama supporter, but the stock market did increase while obama was in office... didn't it?

And during that time, the typical republican stated that "the stock market is no indication of a president's performance." I am a pretty big fan of Hannity, and even he was saying that. You don't hear that too much now though.

I'm not a Repub or a democrat. I'm a Constitutionalist and just call it like I see it. And for the record, I do believe that a portion of the market performance IS directly related to our President and his policies.

What has Trump done to cause it?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mad Dog:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by imakehp:

I answered your exact question as it was presented by you..

**RE-read the post. The question was regarding who gets credit for 92 months of the 103 month old Bull Market? If the current administration is being credited (taking credit) for the past 11+ months, then who gets credit for the previous 92 months of upward movement?
Your question was who gets credit for the market performance for the last 92 months...Unless you're an idiot, you know that Obama was in office during that time period. I'm going to go ahead and assume you're not an idiot. So what you were actually trying to do is give Obama the credit you thought he deserved compared to Trump. You asked...I told you...Question answered
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I provided proof with facts to back it up...

**Proof of what? Your statement is a response that had ZERO to do with my (original post). There was nothing in my post that challenged what the current administration had done.

You wanted to make sure Obama got the credit you feel he deserves compared to Trump....You can smear it with jelly but you and I know what you were after. I answered your rather stupid question (who doesn't know OBAMA was in office then) AND gave some comparisons. You WERE comparing the 2 correct?
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Apparently you didn't like that answer, so you switched it up and started asking "what if" about the future.

**Apparently your definition of answer is completely different than what most would define as an answer. It was not an answer at all. Nothing in my post posed the question, "what if"? You're apparently seeing words that are not written in my posts...

YOU posted " IF that happens; When that happens; only then will the percentage of gain during the period of March 2009 through January 2017 be EQUALED. The Dow at 47,000+ is a lofty goal. IF achieved, great. IF surpassed, even better."

I think it's fair to presume when you keep asking if something is going to be happening relative to a given future time frame it would be viewed as a "what if". You're verbiage certainly isn't asking "WHEN if" or "WHY if"......

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I will say, yes, I'm pleasantly surprised the markets performed well, in spite of Obama's time as potus..

I have a question now...are you even active in the market(s)?

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