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I wonder what the outcome would have been if it was a no name person(like myself) that did this, I have a feeling that would changed the outcome lol.

Well, you're a respectable man, so that situation wouldn't have ever happened. But you're right, if it hadn't been a past big money winner, he'd been thrown off the grounds and asked to never come back.
As far as the other driver taking it into his own hands, it would have just ended up worse for him with possible charges. Randy is (or supposed to be) in charge. With him not doing anything makes 2 punk a$$'s on the grounds.



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Had this action resulted in the outcome Patton intended, his story would have held, his boys and sponsors would have gotten in him another car ASAP, there would have been a go fund me set up and the guy he intended to crash and injure would here been left to fund his own return with the very sane people who are defending his action or silent about it, saying that’s racing.

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I wonder what the outcome would have been if it was a no name person(like myself) that did this, I have a feeling that would changed the outcome lol.

Well, you're a respectable man, so that situation wouldn't have ever happened. But you're right, if it hadn't been a past big money winner, he'd been thrown off the grounds and asked to never come back.
As far as the other driver taking it into his own hands, it would have just ended up worse for him with possible charges. Randy is (or supposed to be) in charge. With him not doing anything makes 2 punk a$$'s on the grounds.



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I have read all these and the base issue is, whether you were there or not, was the fact that someone intentionally tried to hit another race car and did so. That being said he should have been thrown out.
Personally I am sure a lot of people would have handled it differently and that is their own choice with ramifications for those actions. I really like Randy and the Folk family but as soon as the "Lie" came out about the steering wheel then he should have immediately been thrown out with no refund of any kind.

I am the last thing from a left wing liberal pundit so please don't have any comments to that side of things. This is a simple statement that there are consequences for your actions; and sorry, an apology after the fact recognizes you were wrong but doesn't relieve you of your accountability.


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When track officials use fictional stories to put racers back in races 45 minutes after they're loaded up, tied down and door shut on their trailer, it's criminal fraud and officials should get a lifetime ban for rigging drag races.

When a racer does something stupid in the heat of battle like Veruka Salt did, she should be required to complete anger management therapy before racing again.
 
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Randy is (or supposed to be) in charge. With him not doing anything makes 2 punk a$$'s on the grounds.


Best post on this topic.


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I just listened to Luke and Jed podcast. I'm very disappointed on there take on the Hunter situation. Granted, they said it was wrong but they said that "man" is a kid and made a mistake. Trying to wreck your opponent is not a mistake!

Disappointed with Luke and Jed and there take on it. Had it been Ferris Bueller trying to wreck an opponent after a loss, they and everyone would be going nuts!

Again my 2 cents!


I am sorry that you are 'very disappointed' in the message that we delivered. I'm not sure what you heard us say, but I felt like we were very firm on the fact that it was a terrible and childish thing to do.

If you were doing the show, what would you have said? What should we have said, that we didn't say?

He did not 'try' to wreck his opponent. An intentional attempt to do that, would have ended in cars being wrecked. His opponent was an easy target for a crash if he desired to do that. He did put his opponent in harm's way, which was a bonehead move. It was a mistake in judgment, but the action was no mistake. If we said something different than that, our message didn't come across the way we intended. NEITHER of us condoned his actions, nor do we accept them as a simple mistake that should be overlooked. Hunter is a good kid/man/person. I like him a lot, but I DO NOT like what he did. People fail in life. I fail also. There should be punishment for our actions when our failures cause harm to others or in this case, almost cause harm to others. I think the opportunity to set a standard for punishment in a situation like this, was missed. However, I'm not sure that I would've done a great job of that either. As I said on the podcast, I 'think' I would've handled it a different way, but you never really know until you're faced with the decision.


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It's an indictment on the intellect of America as a whole, when you gotta explain to people there would have been a wreck, if Veruka Salt intended for there to be a wreck.

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I just listened to Luke and Jed podcast. I'm very disappointed on there take on the Hunter situation. Granted, they said it was wrong but they said that "man" is a kid and made a mistake. Trying to wreck your opponent is not a mistake!

Disappointed with Luke and Jed and there take on it. Had it been Ferris Bueller trying to wreck an opponent after a loss, they and everyone would be going nuts!

Again my 2 cents!


I am sorry that you are 'very disappointed' in the message that we delivered. I'm not sure what you heard us say, but I felt like we were very firm on the fact that it was a terrible and childish thing to do.

If you were doing the show, what would you have said? What should we have said, that we didn't say?

He did not 'try' to wreck his opponent. An intentional attempt to do that, would have ended in cars being wrecked. His opponent was an easy target for a crash if he desired to do that. He did put his opponent in harm's way, which was a bonehead move. It was a mistake in judgment, but the action was no mistake. If we said something different than that, our message didn't come across the way we intended. NEITHER of us condoned his actions, nor do we accept them as a simple mistake that should be overlooked. Hunter is a good kid/man/person. I like him a lot, but I DO NOT like what he did. People fail in life. I fail also. There should be punishment for our actions when our failures cause harm to others or in this case, almost cause harm to others. I think the opportunity to set a standard for punishment in a situation like this, was missed. However, I'm not sure that I would've done a great job of that either. As I said on the podcast, I 'think' I would've handled it a different way, but you never really know until you're faced with the decision.


This isn't a comment on your podcast. I haven't heard it. I firmly believe if the person who did this wasn't a "name" it would have been handled differently.



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This isn't a comment on your podcast. I haven't heard it. I firmly believe if the person who did this wasn't a "name" it would have been handled differently.


I can't say that is 100% wrong Curtis. I would hope it is wrong, but I'm realistic. Having 'the name' tends to make everyone think they know the person on a little higher level. Knowing the person and their history probably leads us to be a little softer in terms of punishment. The unknown racer doesn't get that pass in most cases, so you're probably right in your assessment.


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Originally posted by M120:
I just listened to Luke and Jed podcast. I'm very disappointed on there take on the Hunter situation. Granted, they said it was wrong but they said that "man" is a kid and made a mistake. Trying to wreck your opponent is not a mistake!

Disappointed with Luke and Jed and there take on it. Had it been Ferris Bueller trying to wreck an opponent after a loss, they and everyone would be going nuts!

Again my 2 cents!


I am sorry that you are 'very disappointed' in the message that we delivered. I'm not sure what you heard us say, but I felt like we were very firm on the fact that it was a terrible and childish thing to do.

If you were doing the show, what would you have said? What should we have said, that we didn't say?

He did not 'try' to wreck his opponent. An intentional attempt to do that, would have ended in cars being wrecked. His opponent was an easy target for a crash if he desired to do that. He did put his opponent in harm's way, which was a bonehead move. It was a mistake in judgment, but the action was no mistake. If we said something different than that, our message didn't come across the way we intended. NEITHER of us condoned his actions, nor do we accept them as a simple mistake that should be overlooked. Hunter is a good kid/man/person. I like him a lot, but I DO NOT like what he did. People fail in life. I fail also. There should be punishment for our actions when our failures cause harm to others or in this case, almost cause harm to others. I think the opportunity to set a standard for punishment in a situation like this, was missed. However, I'm not sure that I would've done a great job of that either. As I said on the podcast, I 'think' I would've handled it a different way, but you never really know until you're faced with the decision.


This isn't a comment on your podcast. I haven't heard it. I firmly believe if the person who did this wasn't a "name" it would have been handled differently.


Or if the person it was done to was one of the promoters kids, I’m sure it would have been handled differently
 
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Randy.... "Veruka there's lots of accusations flying around, I didn't see it... Now tell me what happened"

Veruka...." My steering wheel came off"
 
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The lie betrayed Randy's ability to do the right thing.

Remove Veruka from the race.

If Randy weren't the cool cat he is, he'd have removed the kid when he told the Truth, the next day.

Everyone would have learned... The moral of the story... Never tell the Truth
 
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I have read the thread...punishable by death of the internet...I get it.

I did not, do not, and can not defend Hunter. He made a terrible decision and HE has to live with it.

Jared, Luke, and I share very similar views on this topic. Hunters actions were way worse than Treys, BY FAR. Plain and simple and DID deserve a repercussion/punishment. NOT my decision tho, not for me to make. I WILL NOT condemn Randy Folk for it either.

NONE of the people on this thread were at this race, support this race, intended to support this race...so throw your 2 cents if you choose, you wont effect the race in any way, shape or form. But hell, thats what these sites are for...to talk about it.

What some of you fellas COULD do is leave my kid out of it. For obvious reasons y'all...so 2 years ago and YOU FOOLS are not going to race the million anyhow.

Hope all is well for all and I personally could give 2 ****s if anyone disagrees with my view, every one has a right to feel the way they do.
 
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Hunters actions were way worse than Treys, BY FAR.


I'm not seeing where the other driver did ANYTHING wrong. Please explain. Surely he wasn't in the wrong by whacking the throttle a time or two after failing to fall for the wheel-flip trick during staging, which I consider cheating.

This Hunter dude is the worst type of loser - one of those who can dish it out, but can't take it in return. Congratulations to Hunter for earning his way to the very top of the d-bag pyramid.


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I have read the thread...punishable by death of the internet...I get it.

I did not, do not, and can not defend Hunter. He made a terrible decision and HE has to live with it.

Jared, Luke, and I share very similar views on this topic. Hunters actions were way worse than Treys, BY FAR. Plain and simple and DID deserve a repercussion/punishment. NOT my decision tho, not for me to make. I WILL NOT condemn Randy Folk for it either.

NONE of the people on this thread were at this race, support this race, intended to support this race...so throw your 2 cents if you choose, you wont effect the race in any way, shape or form. But hell, thats what these sites are for...to talk about it.

What some of you fellas COULD do is leave my kid out of it. For obvious reasons y'all...so 2 years ago and YOU FOOLS are not going to race the million anyhow.

Hope all is well for all and I personally could give 2 ****s if anyone disagrees with my view, every one has a right to feel the way they do.


Hey Chris. Man you’re tardy!! Big Grin Agree, no reason to drag him into this.
Internet Court! Lmao! What could have been done and what should have been done is over.

Heading West anytime soon? Corey catching??
Hope all is good there.


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Hunters actions were way worse than Treys, BY FAR.


I'm not seeing where the other driver did ANYTHING wrong. Please explain. Surely he wasn't in the wrong by whacking the throttle a time or two after failing to fall for the wheel-flip trick during staging, which I consider cheating.

This Hunter dude is the worst type of loser - one of those who can dish it out, but can't take it in return. Congratulations to Hunter for earning his way to the very top of the d-bag pyramid.


There's nothing wrong with ripping the throttle on a guy after the stripe, with your win light on.

NOTHING.

I ain't gonna bring the guys name who started it, into this chit show, but I'll give ya a hint. He made Texas Raceway famous for Super Pro bracket racing.

Trey's dad has always done it Sunshine. And Trey,it's their trademark. Trey wasn't singling out or bullying Veruka. Big Grin
 
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Not reading thru 10 pages of " what I would have done " I just want to know what the lights and the finish line numbers were. Trying to figure out how Hunter lost.


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Not reading thru 10 pages of " what I would have done " I just want to know what the lights and the finish line numbers were. Trying to figure out how Hunter lost.


Trey was low teen, took 11 thou one above, rock'n the scoop.
 
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