Seen some pretty off numbers this weekend in Vegas. I'm not there, but a lot of good racers are. Been told some reruns were asked for but denied.

Anyone remember these.

Scott it got windy and stuff was flying all over. Brian Warr lost on one of those wierd reaction times and no rerun. Sad deal.

Scott, thanks for showing the Accutime timing system starting line breakdown but remember Vegas still runs a Compulink system there. In the bigger picture the starting line setups are the same philosophy for beam heights.

Larry, how does trash blowing around cause a redlight?

Turk, I've caught wind of Compulink now having tracks install blocks for beam tracking like Accutime has installed for years. Finally catching up I guess.

Scott, interesting you mention red lights as actually it all depends if they had guard beams turned on in those classes. Usually they are reserved for national events. Guardbeams work opposite of the stage beams. Meaning a spider, dirt or hell sanddust could trigger it causing red lights.You said really high winds during the event so that could be a big factor. By no means saying that was the issue but fits the description your talking about. If they had guardbeams off in the classes then it opens up to other sensor issues out just the fact that the high winds was making the cars react differently and timing system was fine.. really need the actual data to see how many reds and if it was just in 1 lane or both ect

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Originally posted by Larry Scarth:
Scott it got windy and stuff was flying all over. Brian Warr lost on one of those wierd reaction times and no rerun. Sad deal.

Just got off the phone with Brian. Time slip was way off! Video looks like red on before car left..
Major div and nat points implications!
Overlaying runs now .
Won’t post his et slip without him ok with it.
Rumor was some laid down for others? There’s no way that happened!

Scott, paper passed thru the beams before the car left. Similar thing happened to me a few years back. Guess what no rerun either!

At a national event the sportsman racers are just a money maker/ time killer NHRA could care less about you.

I'll let my son Rob post regarding his red light in the TS final, should not have gone red with as much delay as he had in the box.

Two finals in two events, no Wally.

Trash though the lights happened to me once (At Palmdale). I ran a 2. something 1/4 mile time so they put me back in (Thanks Bernie).

Bob

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Originally posted by Larry Scarth:
Scott, paper passed thru the beams before the car left. Similar thing happened to me a few years back. Guess what no rerun either!

I don't understand how paper going through the beams would cause a red light issue if your wheel is also still blocking the beam. The RT is measured and ET begins when the beam is allowed to continue across the track, or at least the sensors THINK that is what is happening. I can't see how flying paper would make that happen.

Also, what caused your major red light in SS since I don't see you implying an error on that run here in this thread?

That was in Stock. They said I backed out of the beam which is impossible in Stock. No trans brake, foot brake only. Jeff Foster said he saw the red light which he said was a reflection from the shinny ground next to the beams. He said they normally spray flat black in that area if there is a problem which they did after I ran. But of course no re-run for me. I was also told to never leave the starting line if that happens, wait for them yo give me reason for the red light. But once I leave the line I no chance for an appeal.

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Originally posted by Larry Scarth:
That was in Stock. They said I backed out of the beam which is impossible in Stock. No trans brake, foot brake only. Jeff Foster said he saw the red light which he said was a reflection from the shinny ground next to the beams. He said they normally spray flat black in that area if there is a problem which they did after I ran. But of course no re-run for me. I was also told to never leave the starting line if that happens, wait for them yo give me reason for the red light. But once I leave the line I no chance for an appeal.

Unless all of the data online is wrong, it has you in SS, specifically SS/TB '01 S-10. Don't see you in Stock.

I wondered if a thread on another message board was implying you gifted a round to the soon-to-be champ.

There are two Compulink tracks that I know of where at certain times in the year (March and September I think) at a certain time of day, you can't get a stage beam in the right lane, because of the sunlight.

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Originally posted by Larry Scarth:
That was in Stock. They said I backed out of the beam which is impossible in Stock. No trans brake, foot brake only. Jeff Foster said he saw the red light which he said was a reflection from the shinny ground next to the beams. He said they normally spray flat black in that area if there is a problem which they did after I ran. But of course no re-run for me. I was also told to never leave the starting line if that happens, wait for them yo give me reason for the red light. But once I leave the line I no chance for an appeal.

"Backing out" is easy to verify...your ET will reflect the amount you were "red", since you started the clock going backward.

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Originally posted by Goob:

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Originally posted by Larry Scarth:
That was in Stock. They said I backed out of the beam which is impossible in Stock. No trans brake, foot brake only. Jeff Foster said he saw the red light which he said was a reflection from the shinny ground next to the beams. He said they normally spray flat black in that area if there is a problem which they did after I ran. But of course no re-run for me. I was also told to never leave the starting line if that happens, wait for them yo give me reason for the red light. But once I leave the line I no chance for an appeal.

"Backing out" is easy to verify...your ET will reflect the amount you were "red", since you started the clock going backward.

The run I'm looking at (Vegas LODRS Super Stock E2) have 60' and 330' times that appear to be correct when compared to the previous run. Or at least they aren't off enough to account for a -.3xx red light.

This stage red light was when I was driving stock several years ago in Pomona not the S10 in SS. In regards to the red light in Vegas 2nd rd against Lamb. Justin doesn't need any help from me or anybody else to win. I was trying a different thumb position on the button and well that didn't work. I recently got the 3 inch long Biondo button and still trying to figure it out. I lack consistency and trying new stuff. Oh well I will go back to the drawing board at Pomona if we get to race at all. Rain excepted for the next 5 days. BTW Lenny that is GT/TB.