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Originally posted by SlyFox:

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Originally posted by Goob:

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Originally posted by SlyFox:
If there are "house cars" that get an unlimited number of entries and buybacks, that pretty much reduces the paying customers' chance of winning pretty drastically.

Read that real slowly, then tell us how that works?
How does the financial dealings of the car in the other lane affect your performance?

No need to read it slowly, I wrote it and know exactly what it means. I don't race (and will never race) the so-called "big money" races because it's stupid. The racers are the ones putting up all the money. It's a sucker bet, for people easily parted from their money.

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Originally posted by SlyFox:
Let's look at it another way. As I stated before, the "big money" in big money comes from the entry fees and buyback fees of the racers themselves. The promoter isn't selling tickets to fans, or getting money from event sponsors (not to any significant extent, anyway). All the entry fees and buybacks go into a pot, the promoter takes a slice to cover his costs and make a profit (which I'm fine with, that's business) and the remainder goes to the purse. Racers are racing for money they collectively put up, no different really than a gambler's race at your local track.

BUT - when people with free entries and buybacks (house cars) join the race, they're racing for OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY. It's no different than somebody who didn't ante up walking away with the pot at a gambler's race. The promoter dials up a few of his buddies, puts them in the race, and they're in cahoots for a free shot at a healthy chunk of other people's money.

If that doesn't strike you as just plain wrong, I really don't know what else to say. As you state though, you should certainly do whatever you choose and enjoy.

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Originally posted by Richard Hammond:

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Originally posted by SlyFox:
Let's look at it another way. As I stated before, the "big money" in big money comes from the entry fees and buyback fees of the racers themselves. The promoter isn't selling tickets to fans, or getting money from event sponsors (not to any significant extent, anyway). All the entry fees and buybacks go into a pot, the promoter takes a slice to cover his costs and make a profit (which I'm fine with, that's business) and the remainder goes to the purse. Racers are racing for money they collectively put up, no different really than a gambler's race at your local track.

BUT - when people with free entries and buybacks (house cars) join the race, they're racing for OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY. It's no different than somebody who didn't ante up walking away with the pot at a gambler's race. The promoter dials up a few of his buddies, puts them in the race, and they're in cahoots for a free shot at a healthy chunk of other people's money.

If that doesn't strike you as just plain wrong, I really don't know what else to say. As you state though, you should certainly do whatever you choose and enjoy.

So what races had house cars? And who were they? How many of these house cars were entered?

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So who are these top tier drivers in these "house cars" that are willing to win a race for less money than they would have won if they entered the race?
HMMMM

Burt

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Originally posted by SlyFox:

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Originally posted by Richard Hammond:

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Originally posted by SlyFox:
Let's look at it another way. As I stated before, the "big money" in big money comes from the entry fees and buyback fees of the racers themselves. The promoter isn't selling tickets to fans, or getting money from event sponsors (not to any significant extent, anyway). All the entry fees and buybacks go into a pot, the promoter takes a slice to cover his costs and make a profit (which I'm fine with, that's business) and the remainder goes to the purse. Racers are racing for money they collectively put up, no different really than a gambler's race at your local track.

BUT - when people with free entries and buybacks (house cars) join the race, they're racing for OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY. It's no different than somebody who didn't ante up walking away with the pot at a gambler's race. The promoter dials up a few of his buddies, puts them in the race, and they're in cahoots for a free shot at a healthy chunk of other people's money.

If that doesn't strike you as just plain wrong, I really don't know what else to say. As you state though, you should certainly do whatever you choose and enjoy.

So what races had house cars? And who were they? How many of these house cars were entered?

https://drr.infopop.cc/eve/foru...5460652/m/1547091386

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Originally posted by cgall:
The house car is added or subtracted after first round to result in a car count in the range of 20-24, 36-48, and so on. The objective is to have 3 cars in the semis every time.

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That doesn't answer my question. which racers left that race? And how do you know that promoters of these big money races don't have sponsors putting in any money as well?

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That doesn't answer my question. which racers left that race? And how do you know that promoters of these big money races don't have sponsors putting in any money as well?

If you think these races are a good deal, knock yourself out. It's theft in plain sight, but go ahead

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by mavman:
House car in other lane. Don't think about it, no problem, just like the rest of the opponents. If you lose to the house car, you were likely to lose against someone else if it wasn't a house car.[/QUOTE A man that has busted his a s s all year working 40+ hours a week an saved extra money to just make one of these races knowing that he really shouldn’t be going in the first place because the mortgage is due next week....I feel like his mindset is totally different then someone that is PUT IN by the PROMOTER OR SUGARDADDY...that driver has NOTHING,NATTA,ZERO to lose...he can just say F U C K IT it ain’t mine....WHOMP OUT....