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Good for you, winning attitude! Now I have to wonder why your panties are in a wad over something you aren't interested in, and think is stupid. ???? Why you in on this topic? Just FYI, I'll race anyone, anywhere, anytime for a pack of crackers or a trophy, but I love the competition of racing the best all in one event. If you're skeeered, just say you're skeered. "Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular." Dave Cook N375 | |||
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The house car is added or subtracted after first round to result in a car count in the range of 20-24, 36-48, and so on. The objective is to have 3 cars in the semis every time. | |||
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It's very simple math. If there are 100 entries, and I have two of those entries, my odds of winning are 1 in 50 (2/100), assuming my skills are equal to all of the other entries. If the promoter adds 20 entries for "house cars" my odds of winning are now 1 in 60 (2/120), which is obviously not quite as good as 1 in 50. And the promoter now has a 1 in 6 chance of being obligated to pay out less, because 1 out of 6 (20 of 120) are his "house" entries. And (this is VERY important) it costs the promoter ZERO to tilt the odds a bit more in his favor when he adds these "house cars." I guess if a house car ends up in the money, they have some agreement to split, but the promoter still wins when his entries finish in the money. It's just simple math and statistical probability. Doesn't have anything to do with how good I am (or not), my panties, if I'm "skeered" or not, whether the car in the other lane is a paying customer or a house car, etc, etc. It's just simple math. If there are any who don't understand that, I can't help you, but please be aware that the promoters who play the free entry/"house car" game are aware of your ignorance, and profiting from it ![]() Mike | |||
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I am not ignorant of any of it, BUT I like to race like that, I CHOOSE to race like that, and I don't care WHO makes money or not. What I don't do is offer my opinion on things I'm "not interested in", or think "are stupid", or call other people stupid for doing what THEY like to do. Got it? ![]() "Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular." Dave Cook N375 | |||
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Been saying it for 20 years, I'm waiting on a track to offer pari-mutual betting on bracket races.....HUGE potential there. "Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular." Dave Cook N375 | |||
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Let's look at it another way. As I stated before, the "big money" in big money comes from the entry fees and buyback fees of the racers themselves. The promoter isn't selling tickets to fans, or getting money from event sponsors (not to any significant extent, anyway). All the entry fees and buybacks go into a pot, the promoter takes a slice to cover his costs and make a profit (which I'm fine with, that's business) and the remainder goes to the purse. Racers are racing for money they collectively put up, no different really than a gambler's race at your local track. BUT - when people with free entries and buybacks (house cars) join the race, they're racing for OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY. It's no different than somebody who didn't ante up walking away with the pot at a gambler's race. The promoter dials up a few of his buddies, puts them in the race, and they're in cahoots for a free shot at a healthy chunk of other people's money. If that doesn't strike you as just plain wrong, I really don't know what else to say. As you state though, you should certainly do whatever you choose and enjoy. Mike | |||
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So what races had house cars? And who were they? How many of these house cars were entered? | |||
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https://drr.infopop.cc/eve/foru...5460652/m/1547091386 Mike | |||
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![]() "Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular." Dave Cook N375 | |||
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That doesn't answer my question. which racers left that race? And how do you know that promoters of these big money races don't have sponsors putting in any money as well? | |||
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People might have more fun if they step out of their comfort zone every once in a while. What about the racers that won their entry in a raffle? Should you race them if they didn't pay full price? "Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular." Dave Cook N375 | |||
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You mean like some of the big races that have a car cap with a large buy back window to make it fall 9, 5, 3? Hmmmm........Forrest for the trees gentlemen. | |||
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Odd, no promoters comments. | |||
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The Folks have promoted races for a long time, always had a bunch of their own cars racing. Never heard and gripes or complaints. | |||
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House car in other lane. Don't think about it, no problem, just like the rest of the opponents. If you lose to the house car, you were likely to lose against someone else if it wasn't a house car. | |||
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by mavman: House car in other lane. Don't think about it, no problem, just like the rest of the opponents. If you lose to the house car, you were likely to lose against someone else if it wasn't a house car.[/QUOTE A man that has busted his a s s all year working 40+ hours a week an saved extra money to just make one of these races knowing that he really shouldn’t be going in the first place because the mortgage is due next week....I feel like his mindset is totally different then someone that is PUT IN by the PROMOTER OR SUGARDADDY...that driver has NOTHING,NATTA,ZERO to lose...he can just say F U C K IT it ain’t mine....WHOMP OUT.... | |||
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If you think these races are a good deal, knock yourself out. It's theft in plain sight, but go ahead ![]() Mike | |||
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Just so everyone knows, when you pay round money, it doesn't help when the car count falls to 9,5 and 3. It just means you paid more round money in the other rounds. If it fell to 8,4 and 2, you would've saved some round money but paid it up with the extra semi finalist and 3 extra 1/4 finalists. It might not work out dollar for dollar, because that is based on how the payout is structured. Just wanted to make it clear that promoters who pay round money, are NOT trying to make it fall to 9,5 and 3. Jared Pennington Coalburg Racing # 1X http://worldfootbrakechallenge.com The Sportsman Drag Racing Podcast with Luke and Jed | |||
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No one is putting a gun to your head and forcing you to enter these races. Big money bracket racing isn’t for everyone. But calling it theft is just retarded. You pay to enter a race to win. Whether it’s a trophy or a million dollars. It’s all the same. | |||
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Who are to say what other racers financial situations are? If they want to sacrifice their mortgage payment that’s on them. You are just another person throwing out negative garbage about people that enter big money races. | |||
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