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Originally posted by Curly1:

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Originally posted by Michael Beard:
United States Mortality Data
2015 2,712,630
2016 2,744,248 +31,618
2017 2,813,503 +69,255
2018 2,839,205 +25,702
2019 2,854,838 +15,633
2020 3,358,814 +503,976

Draw your own conclusion.

Agreed, one thing is I saw earlier where official numbers for 2020 was around 2,9xx,xxx.

Why did they go up 400,000? I was watching those numbers for quite a while and while supposedly thousands of people were dying from it the overall numbers of dead were very close to previous years. That brought up Red Flags. Something is not right.

My thoughts exactly. Sudden unexpected jump last two months of 2020. Fishy to me. Where were all these deaths? Our local counties were next to nothing

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Originally posted by RPROGAS:
When you understand the meaning of the term "Gain of Function" you begin to understand how dangerous the research can become. You are genetically mutating a exceptionally dangerous pathogen of one species to study the effects it has on other species. In this particular case it was bats and humans.

The protocols the lab in Wuhan used were obviously ineffective in containing the pathogen they created, this resulted in a World Wide Pandemic.

I get what happened in Wuhan, where I take serious exception is the way everyone handled the incident. The first was China lying to the public, then eliminating everyone connected to the research or fully containing their ability to warn the World. The impact was like starting a fire then stopping the Fire Department (The World) from helping. We will never know if the virus could have been initially contained, by stalling no one got that opportunity. I also hold the Media responsible. They misrepresented the seriousness of the situation and by doing so impeded the ability of the Research Community to rapidly respond. Insert Dr. Faucci and his vested interest in the research program and it's easier to understand how this virus had such a devastating impact.

There is a lesson to be learned here, I hope that it does not escape the attention of the Research Community. You folks screwed up, you wanted to stop a Pandemic but in your zeal you created one. For the love of God don't allow it to happen again you could kill everyone in the World.

One last comment: Blaming Chinese or Pan Asian people living in the United States is both stupid and ineffective, they had NOTHING to do with the Pandemic.

Bob

Bob,
Watched all the info on Fox. When the Wuhan Scientist were supposed to be at level four in safety they were at level two. Same as a dentist office. Wtf.
Bucky, when the virus was at its peak my timing was terrible. I was in ER twice. I can tell you the entire ER was packed with Covid victims. The second and third floor were the worst cases. My Sister in-law works for well known Mortuary here. I saw first hand how many bodies were stacked up waiting to be buried. We’re all if those Covid? Maybe not but I would venture to say 75% or more were. Our efforts should be on finding out who and how it got out then hammer their a z zes! Is it too late? Maybe? Maybe not.

Well for a long time there we were not allowed to have funerals so they were stacking em up.

That is another thing that bothers me when they were sick and needed us we were not allowed to see them.........

Then they were not allowed to have a decent funeral.

Well except George Floyd, he had 5 funerals and a gold casket...... The heck is wrong with people?

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Originally posted by Curly1:

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Originally posted by Michael Beard:
United States Mortality Data
2015 2,712,630
2016 2,744,248 +31,618
2017 2,813,503 +69,255
2018 2,839,205 +25,702
2019 2,854,838 +15,633
2020 3,358,814 +503,976

Draw your own conclusion.

Agreed, one thing is I saw earlier where official numbers for 2020 was around 2,9xx,xxx.

Why did they go up 400,000? I was watching those numbers for quite a while and while supposedly thousands of people were dying from it the overall numbers of dead were very close to previous years. That brought up Red Flags. Something is not right.

Those popular Facebook memes everyone was passing around last summer used a blatantly false number for 2020 in order to fabricate a narrative that "SEE? Nobody's dying! Everything is completely normal!"

Official mortality reporting does lag by several months, but the 2020 numbers were always significantly higher than previous years, despite what people so desperately wanted to believe.

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Originally posted by Bucky:
My thoughts exactly. Sudden unexpected jump last two months of 2020. Fishy to me. Where were all these deaths? Our local counties were next to nothing

Unexpected? There was a MASSIVE surge in covid cases worldwide and the emergence of several variants at the end of 2020. There was data and news reports about it everywhere, and some States instituted curfews or other mitigation efforts to try to keep the numbers down. I can't believe that anyone ISN'T aware of what happened.

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Originally posted by Curly1:
Well for a long time there we were not allowed to have funerals so they were stacking em up.

That is another thing that bothers me when they were sick and needed us we were not allowed to see them.........

Then they were not allowed to have a decent funeral.

Well except George Floyd, he had 5 funerals and a gold casket...... The heck is wrong with people?

Yes!

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Originally posted by Michael Beard:

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Originally posted by Bucky:
My thoughts exactly. Sudden unexpected jump last two months of 2020. Fishy to me. Where were all these deaths? Our local counties were next to nothing

Unexpected? There was a MASSIVE surge in covid cases worldwide and the emergence of several variants at the end of 2020. There was data and news reports about it everywhere, and some States instituted curfews or other mitigation efforts to try to keep the numbers down. I can't believe that anyone ISN'T aware of what happened.

I was watching and paying attention to the TOTAL death rate and it was not much higher than normal all year and just the last few weeks they come up saying an extra 400,000!

Sounds like the same people who are counting Biden votes after Midnight!

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Originally posted by BlackDog82:
Sniff was clueless LONG before 591,000 people died

THIS! I cannot hate nor even dislike the guy. He has zero idea of what is going on...anywhere. He simply repeats what he has been prompted to repeat. It is actually hard to watch.

Of course, there are also folks who believe he genuinely received 80 million legitimate votes. I feel badly for those folks too. Take care. Tom Worthington

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Originally posted by Tom396:


THIS! I cannot hate nor even dislike the guy. He has zero idea of what is going on...anywhere. He simply repeats what he has been prompted to repeat. It is actually hard to watch.

Of course, there are also folks who believe he genuinely received 80 million legitimate votes. I feel badly for those folks too. Take care. Tom Worthington

The man had run for President twice before, never lasting to the first primary in 1988, and withdrawing the night of the first primary in 2008, and ran in 2020 from his basement, stammering through brief statements, against a man who spoke weekly before 25,000 people, yet we are 'SUPPOSED' to believe he drew 10,000,000 more voters than the fluent (yet lying) and popular Barry Soetoro in either of his successful elections?

Don't pee down my back and tell me it's rain.

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Originally posted by BlackDog82:

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Originally posted by Tom396:


THIS! I cannot hate nor even dislike the guy. He has zero idea of what is going on...anywhere. He simply repeats what he has been prompted to repeat. It is actually hard to watch.

Of course, there are also folks who believe he genuinely received 80 million legitimate votes. I feel badly for those folks too. Take care. Tom Worthington

The man had run for President twice before, never lasting to the first primary in 1988, and withdrawing the night of the first primary in 2008, and ran in 2020 from his basement, stammering through brief statements, against a man who spoke weekly before 25,000 people, yet we are 'SUPPOSED' to believe he drew 10,000,000 more voters than the fluent (yet lying) and popular Barry Soetoro in either of his successful elections?

Don't pee down my back and tell me it's rain.

Actually most everyone KNOWS that Dictator Biden did not win by VOTES. The problem is they do not CARE how they Won as long as they Won. The Whole World KNOWS it was MASSIVE VOTER FRAUD that put Dictator Biden in office. I saw a poll a few days ago that said Dictator Biden's approval rating is 63%. There is no way over half the people like the lumber prices 5 times higher than they were a year ago, Gas prices Double, food double, and TAXES going up to. I still see Trump stickers on cars and signs 10 to 1. No Dictator Biden did not Win.

I said this before the election and will say it again now it is still true.

"If they can stop the massive voter fraud Trump will win in largest landslide in History."

I blame Trump for part of the loss. He like all the rest of us KNEW there was massive voter fraud going back to 2008 that we know of and it may go back further than that. He should have forced Congress to do something to guarantee an honest election. Part of the problem and the Democrat plan was to fight Trump every step of the way on everything. That limited him on things like fighting voter fraud.

I wonder if anyone in our Congressional Intelligence Committee was able to figure out how the virus "Escaped". My guess is that one does, or did in his case.

I also wonder if they ever discovered that the Chinese Army's Biological Warfare Research Center is also located in Wuhan. 687 cities in China and both Research Laboratories are located in Wuhan probably just a coincident, I mean what are the odds, 686:1 ?

It might make a good story line for a John Gresham novel that would never be allowed to go to print.

Bob

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Part of the problem and the Democrat plan was to fight Trump every step of the way on everything.

And how did the dims get their power to do so? Repub inaction from 2016 to 2018. Politics are a biotch.

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Originally posted by Canted Valve:

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Part of the problem and the Democrat plan was to fight Trump every step of the way on everything.

And how did the dims get their power to do so? Repub inaction from 2016 to 2018. Politics are a biotch.

That is so True and part of that is because the Swamp is not just Democrats.

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...part of that is because the Swamp is not just Democrats.

I'll start, John McCain anyone?

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Part of the problem and the Democrat plan was to fight Trump every step of the way on everything

ABC’s Jon Karl this morning discussed the origins of the Covid-19 pandemic and conceded that indeed it is possible the virus came from the Wuhan lab.

“Some things may be true even if Donald Trump said them” – ABC’s @JonKarl....

https://twitter.com/BrentHBake...013288491499522?s=20

And lets not forget the media too.

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Originally posted by Trans Lady:

“Some things may be true even if Donald Trump said them” – ABC’s @JonKarl....

Bat-rastards NEVER pass-up a chance to swipe at Trump, even when proving he was correct

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Originally posted by Bucky:

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Originally posted by wideopen231:
Lets consider a few things.

A lab in China develops virus

It just happens to escape the lab.Gets into the rest of the world. Destroys economy's every where.

It just happens to be in time to help make it easier to steal a election. A election that just happen to remove the one President that has stood up to China. Just happen to put a man who has been bought by China years ago.

The party that now is in control just happens to do everything possible to reverse anything good for America and especially if it was done by Trump.

The virus gives the government all kinds of ways to push the agenda of socialism, which is inline with China's way of doing things.

One of the biggest investors in that same lab just happens to be billionaire from computers that work off electronics sold to us by China which he has been doing business with for decades.

The man put in charge of handling virus outbreak.Just so happens has been involved with same lab and a lot of folks who benefit from outbreak. He also moves over to new administration that came into power thru carefull manipulation of virus and the openings it provided to make voter fraud a breeze.

Nobody is really looking into how all of this happened.

Lot more could list but I think pretty clear picture.

Damn thats a lot of coincidences for one virus

This all yours or quoted from someone. Well done either way. Very thoughtful

What not enough typo's to be all mine? Sorry I will do better next time. LOL

Just me pointing out a few things that add wrong or should I say left.

Canted how about a few more
Mitt Romney
Liz Cheney
Susan Collins
Thats just the top of the list
Romney will go anywhere or commit to any party to get elected==Hope he is more committed to his wife.

The USA will be better off when the population realizes that NONE of these politicians are for us. They want all of us to hate each other, so we don't turn on them.

Their goal is to keep the country at a 50/50 or 60/40 divide. That way we're too concerned with one another, and they keep their plush do nothing jobs.

Everything other than the military could easily be managed by the private sector.

This might be the answer for the 50/50 deal. Libs please chime in, I would love to hear your acceptance, I know I'm agreeable.



DIVORCE AGREEMENT

Dear American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, Marxists, and Obama supporters, et al:
We have stuck together since the late 1950s for the sake of the kids, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce. I know we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but sadly, this relationship has clearly run its course.
Our two ideological sides of America cannot and will not ever agree on what is right for us all, so let's just end it on friendly terms. We can smile and chalk it up to irreconcilable differences and go our own way.
Here is our separation agreement:
Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by land mass, each taking a similar portion. That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. After that, it should be relatively easy! Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets, since both sides have such distinct and disparate tastes.
—We don't like re-distributive taxes, so you can keep them.
--You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU.
--Since you hate guns and war, we'll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA, and the military.
--We'll take the nasty, smelly oil industry and the coal mines, and you can go with wind, solar, and bio-diesel.
--You can keep Oprah, Whoopi, Bill Maher, Michael Moore and Rosie O'Donnell. You are, however, responsible for finding a bio-diesel vehicle big enough to move all five of them.
--We'll keep capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart, and Wall Street.
--You can have your beloved lifelong welfare dwellers, food stamps, homeless, homeboys, hippies, druggies, and illegal aliens.
--We'll keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms, greedy CEOs, and rednecks.
--We'll keep Bill O’Reilly and Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood.
--You can make nice with Iran and Palestine and we'll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us.
--You can have the peaceniks and war protesters.
--When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we'll help provide them security.
--We'll keep our Judeo-Christian values.
--You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism, political correctness, and Shirley McLaine. You can also have the UN., but we will no longer be paying the bill.
--We'll keep the SUVs, pickup trucks, and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Volt and Leaf you can find.
--You can give everyone health care if you can find any practicing doctors.
--We'll keep "The Battle Hymn of the Republic" and "The National Anthem."
--I'm sure you'll be happy to substitute "Imagine," "I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing," "Kum Baya," or "We Are the World."
--We'll practice trickle-down economics and you can continue to give trickle-up poverty your best shot.
--Since it often so offends you, we'll keep our history, our name, and our flag.
Would you agree to this? If so, please pass it along to other like-minded liberal and conservative patriots. In the spirit of friendly parting, I'll bet you might think about which one of us will need whose help in 15 years.