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Originally posted by daytonchoppers:
thanks for the cudos on my son boz!

but i dont understand why you would be on that side of the issue as far as how obama has ran the afgan war?
It isn't how he is running the war, it is the fact that the news media and all the left wingers wouild post every American soldier death and pin it on Bush. Now that Obamer is in office no one is saying anything about it. Amazing that you didn't know that more lives were lost under Obamer's watch than on Bush's. Now you answer the question: Would Bush have been vilified in the news if he had lost that many amount of troops?

the generals ALL said that they have had their hands cuffed by the last adminstration. and obama has opened a can of whoop *** since he became commander and chief.

The last administration was actually a general and Obamer, go back and look at the general changes and the policy changes on "Rules of Engagements". That should open your eyes on the "who done it".

we should have been out of that crap hole 8 years ago.
not JUST getting started?

Totally agree, from a resource perspective we couldn't do it until we got Iraq completed, which needed to happen. You can debate that all you want but there is a lot of things about that war that no one knows and shouldn't know, I will leave it at that.

and i had a local deputy sheriff shed some light on this very subject yesterday.
he said there have been more police officers killed so far this year in the U.S. than soldiers we've lost in afgan.

There were more murders in Detroit in 2009 than in Iraq, yep 317 in Iraq and 361 in Detroit. Why weren't all the Dems up in arms about those murders, in a Democratic city, a union city and a democratic state. SEEMS REAL HYPOCRITICAL DON'T YOU THINK???

sounds like we are fighting 3 wars not just 2

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Totally agree, from a resource perspective we couldn't do it until we got Iraq completed, which needed to happen. You can debate that all you want but there is a lot of things about that war that no one knows and shouldn't know, I will leave it at that.

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Originally posted by BD:

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Totally agree, from a resource perspective we couldn't do it until we got Iraq completed, which needed to happen. You can debate that all you want but there is a lot of things about that war that no one knows and shouldn't know, I will leave it at that.

What now Boz? Are you a spook spy from the CIA? Do you get a morning situation report from the NSA? Come on, what will you leave it at? LMAO

The whole deal was W Jr. pissed because Saddam dissed Daddy, and besides Jr. wanted a bigger war to be remembered for than his daddy had. LMAO

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Originally posted by Bob H:

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Originally posted by BD:

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Totally agree, from a resource perspective we couldn't do it until we got Iraq completed, which needed to happen. You can debate that all you want but there is a lot of things about that war that no one knows and shouldn't know, I will leave it at that.

What now Boz? Are you a spook spy from the CIA? Do you get a morning situation report from the NSA? Come on, what will you leave it at? LMAO

The whole deal was W Jr. pissed because Saddam dissed Daddy, and besides Jr. wanted a bigger war to be remembered for than his daddy had. LMAO

Yep.....The spook spy from the CIA is still looking for those WMD's.

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Originally posted by daytonchoppers:
you might read his first book it spells out his relgious path very well and explains his relationship with his father.
it might change your mind.

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Originally posted by daytonchoppers:
boz actions,appologies,bowing etc?

just check out some video of the last president doing the exact same thing to the saudis?
I have never seen a President bow to another leader. I have seen in the Far East where it is customary for both to bow, but not just one, other than Obamer.

can you find one example of any president who hasnt honored the traditions and customs of all the foreign leaders they interact with?
Yep, how about Obamer sending back gifts from England, giving the Queen an ipod with his speaches on it, some unformatted DVD's of his speeches... need I go on, and that is just England.

wright might be on the fringe but he's still a follower of christ not allah?
ON THE FRINGE???????? YOU HAVE TO BE FAWKING NUTS DAYTON. I HONESTLY CAN'T BELIEVE YOU TYPED THAT, YOU ARE SMARTER THAN THAT. IF THAT WASN'T OBAMERS BOY THEN YOU WOULD HAVE CALLED HIM EVERYTHING BUT A BLACK MAN FOR HIS THEATRICS, BUT SINCE IT IS OBAMERS MENTOR YOU CALL HIM "ON THE FRINGE".

you might read his first book it spells out his relgious path very well and explains his relationship with his father.
it might change your mind.
His book is not an autobiography, there have been many items in the book that have been dispelled so it is fiction rather than factual. It is an opinion rather than factual.


On the issue of him being muslim or christian I don't believe he is either agnostically. I believe he toughts whichever side is best for him in that moment. He is a very oppurtunistic and plays to what he needs to in order to be construed as a liberal in some circles, in the center at others, muslim at some and christian at others. He is a great "speecher" and "speaker" but he doesn't do well without the teleprompter, why is that?

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Originally posted by daytonchoppers:
i expect ignorance from koski but dave i know you cant really believe that?

two points
1. why has he taken the lead in afgan?

Has he? I thought it was a NATO lead force now??
whos killed more muslims in the last two years than obama?

How about the US troops and the rest of the NATO forces.. I doubt Nobama has killed anyone, unless you want to call his policies killers..LOL

2. why is he raising his children christian?

I think his mother in law is raising his children, That's why she lives with him..

do you know anyone who is this or that and sends their kids to a different church other than the one they believe in?


Sure, I was born a Christian and my step mother forced us to go to a Catholic Church. I guess that doesn't count as an example though..Shoot you said you read the mans book and I know more about what's in it than you do, just by doing research on it.. It seems he claims to be Christian, but his parents had him in mosques, budist temples, and catholic churches.

i'm having trouble understanding why a man would publicly proclaim "the lord jesus crist is my lord and savior" and thats not enough for you?


Really? Are you that naive? In your next post you will be condeming a repub that does something stupid and throw the fact he claims to be religious up in order to discredit him. But you just can't bring yourself to believe Nobama could claim Christianity and not be a Christian. He claims to have had the Quran and a Bible available in his home growing up. So I'm a little confused here. Seems to me he can claim to be what ever suits him at the moment. I haven't heard him denounce he was any other religion. That might go f urther than claiming Chritianity. HE'S A FREAKING POLITICIAN!

Also, if he is such a good Christian why would he sit in a church for twenty years and not know the ass preaching was spewing hate?? Reveils a lot to me but for the left I guess that is considered normal..

i would think conservatives would rejoyce?