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good could come out of Trump conviction of exercising the First Amendment. They called it civil war in in 1860's. Only way to fix the liberal agenda is to nip it in the bud.




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[QUOTE]Originally posted by wideopen231:
That orange man is Greatest President of all time. /QUOTE]

And you my dear sir appear to be as stupid as a stump. Only time will tell who's opinion will be born out as true.


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"Put some jam on the bottom shelf where the little man can reach it."

"The Truth", it's just another liberal conspiracy!
 
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good could come out of Trump conviction of exercising the First Amendment. They called it civil war in in 1860's. Only way to fix the liberal agenda is to nip it in the bud.


So you going to stand up with Meal Team 6?


Who the hell do you think needs killing first and where abouts are they located?


Later Larry

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"Put some jam on the bottom shelf where the little man can reach it."

"The Truth", it's just another liberal conspiracy!
 
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good could come out of Trump conviction of exercising the First Amendment. They called it civil war in in 1860's. Only way to fix the liberal agenda is to nip it in the bud.


Ya know, if you are on the side I think your on, it didn't come out so well back then. Ya know even suggesting a rebellion against the US government can get your silly ass in a whole heap of trouble, right. You blow your gums too much along those lines and you might have to spend some time at the local field office answering some really hard questions. But yeah you go right on doing your 1st rights. Speech is free, consequences cost extra.


Later Larry

Sapere aude!

"Put some jam on the bottom shelf where the little man can reach it."

"The Truth", it's just another liberal conspiracy!
 
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Originally posted by wideopen231:
good could come out of Trump conviction of exercising the First Amendment. They called it civil war in in 1860's. Only way to fix the liberal agenda is to nip it in the bud.


The goofball let the anti-American perverted socialist/communists end goal out of the bag.
Their intention is to have the gestapo jack booted fbi thugs drag anybody who dissents to their programs in and intimidate them or WORSE!!!
PLUS occasionally gun one down as they're apprehending them to get a point across!

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TAKE IT TO THE BANK!!!!!
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Be that as it may. Trump may not even be running, for a whole host of reasons, 91 so far, with more not far off on the horizon.

Then too, there is the Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3

Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3:

"No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability."

All it takes is any states Attorney General to invoke it and disallow Trump to run in their state. You can't win if you are not on the ballot. Which may of course be over ridden by 2/3rds vote in both houses of congress.

Some thought on this subject by Lawrence Tribe -> https://t.co/85oAp5oFAL


Re: 14th

Legal Scholars: Professor Laurence Tribe & retired federal judge Michael Luttig highlight in their article in
@TheAtlantic
the self-executing nature of the 14th Amendment's Section 3 "disqualification clause" that excludes from office in the United States government any person who after taking an oath to support and defend our Constitution then engages in insurrection or rebellion against the same or gives aid or comfort to the enemies of the Constitution.

The Constitution:
14th Amendment, Section 3:
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Federalist Society Law Professors:

Tribe & Luttig praise the forthcoming University of Pennsylvania law review article by two Federalist Society conservative law professors: William Baude of the University of Chicago and Michael Stokes Paulsen of the University of St. Thomas who conclude that Trump is ineligible to run again.

How would it work?
Individual actions would arise state by state likely under what are known as quo warranto laws which give a broad variety of stakeholders the ability to bring such actions. A good analysis of these is set forth in
https://justsecurity.org/84896...ionists-from-office/

Criticism of Section 3 is Off-Base
Critics of the process who claim that it is legally flawed because it is untested and would be unwieldy miss the mark. First, it is not untested. A recent case in New Mexico successfully removed a Jan 6 insurrectionist from a county commission post. https://citizensforethics.org/...uary-6-insurrection/
Second, the fact that all 50 states have different laws hardly supports an argument that a Constitutional provision is flawed.

Political Effect
Some concern may exist that any such efforts might backfire by either further energizing Trump's base. While that is likely true, in the short term it might allow Trump to more easily capture the Republican nomination that is likely to happen anyway. The real political damage to Trump would be in the general election where such efforts if successful in even one of the battleground would be crippling to Trump's ability to win the general election. Moreover, the timing of such actions and likely appeal to the Supreme Court make the effect far more likely to be felt in the general election.



A federal court judge in Fort Lauderdale on Thursday dismissed a lawsuit challenging Donald Trump's 2024 presidential candidacy under the 14th Amendment.

The lawsuit, filed a week ago, questioned Trump's ability to appear on the Florida presidential primary ballot next year, owing to his alleged role in the Jan. 6 violence at the U.S. Capitol.

In her swift dismissal of the case, Judge Robin Rosenberg, who was appointed to the bench by President Barack Obama, did not determine the 14th Amendment's applicability in Trump's case.

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/...-ballot/70726059007/


Let's let the voters decide.
 
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The looooooonie lefties are determined to ignore, "INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY" when President Trump is involved!!!!!
All of these indictments are coming apart at the seams before they even reach trial!


TAKE IT TO THE BANK!!!!!
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Be careful Bill...as long as this bunch is in charge....There's an old saying....Nothing is against the law when you ARE the law...


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This is Biden's largest lead yet over Trump in this poll and represents a trend showing the president opening a consistent lead on the Former Guy.




George Stephanopoulos stunned by new poll showing Trump and Biden deadlocked...

https://www.mediaite.com/news/...pite-trumps-baggage/


That "largest lead yet over Trump" sure has shrunk since that Yahoo poll...


https://www.realclearpolitics....p-vs-biden-7383.html
 
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