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While we're at it, here is the J6 report.
I know it's a really heavy lift for all the lightweights around here, but here you go anyway.

https://tinyurl.com/yc4zmy2f


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"The Truth", it's just another liberal conspiracy!
 
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~3.5% unemployment, down from ~15% Apr 2020. 13.5 million new jobs, way above and beyond those lost to the pandemic. 800,000 new high tech manufacturing jobs. Billions in private sector money put into new US manufacturing as well as onshoring old manufacturing jobs.

As of 2021 there were a record 5.4 million new small business starts. There are 10.8 million jobs open and only 5.9 million unemployed workers. All according to U.S. Chamber of Commerce.




Biden pushing hard to convince voters that his "Bidenomics" have positively impacted the economy.

Americans aren't buying it...

 
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Opinion poll, say it again, opinion poll.

Opinions are like arsholes everybody has got one. Just because a bunch of people hold that opinion, DOES NOT, make that OPINION a true representation of REALITY.

I agree there are a lot of Trump cult members who believe every frigging word that comes out of the Great Orange Pumpkins mouth. In most religions and cults the leaders tell the followers what to think and not to believe anything anyone else says. This cult leader lies a LOT ya know, and there are a bunch of people, cult members, that wouldn't admit a red hot poker is hot, even after it was shoved straight up their arses. That is kinda how cults work.

So yeah, I am sure Biden and the Democrats are out there trying mightily to disabuse the cult of the Orange Stupid of their ill formed opinions. Hope springs eternal.

So yeah, all opinions aside, they don't change the fact that the economy is doing great.


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"The Truth", it's just another liberal conspiracy!
 
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Just because a bunch of people hold that opinion, DOES NOT, make that OPINION a true representation of REALITY.



Biden’s popularity rating mirrors Hillary Clinton’s in 2016

And our most recent NBC News poll had Biden’s fav/unfav in the same territory (39% positive, 48% negative) as Hillary Clinton’s was in our Oct. 2016 poll (40% positive, 50% negative).

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-t...tons-2016-rcna100365

Was Hillary's poll numbers not "a true representation of REALITY?"
 
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Be that as it may. Trump may not even be running, for a whole host of reasons, 91 so far, with more not far off on the horizon.

Then too, there is the Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3

Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3:

"No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability."

All it takes is any states Attorney General to invoke it and disallow Trump to run in their state. You can't win if you are not on the ballot. Which may of course be over ridden by 2/3rds vote in both houses of congress.

Some thought on this subject by Lawrence Tribe -> https://t.co/85oAp5oFAL


Later Larry

Sapere aude!

"Put some jam on the bottom shelf where the little man can reach it."

"The Truth", it's just another liberal conspiracy!
 
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This POS brain dead boob is about the sole looooooonie tuner here and posts his diatribes that nobody reads.
If he had a life he might dream of constructive things to do?


TAKE IT TO THE BANK!!!!!
Later, Bill Koski
 
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This POS brain dead boob is about the sole looooooonie tuner here and posts his diatribes that nobody reads.
If he had a life he might dream of constructive things to do?


“When the debate is lost, slander (ad hominem) becomes the tool of the loser.” Socrates

The above is an example of someone who knows they have nothing, lost the argument, on the substance of what is under discussion. They resort to ad hominem attacks and then suggest the person they are attacking should go away i.e. lets not talk about this anymore because it's making me look bad.

Oh and I have a splendid life and I find it highly constructive to point out other points of view to those who may be hiding in the bushes so to speak in this little bubble. See this is me "reading" stuff outside my bubble so to speak.

So convince me with reasoned arguments just exactly how Orange Julius is going to make everyone's life soo much better.


Later Larry

Sapere aude!

"Put some jam on the bottom shelf where the little man can reach it."

"The Truth", it's just another liberal conspiracy!
 
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Time for more donations people, Orange Julius needs bail money and he damn sure ain't paying it out of his own pocket. Just a small $5 donation*





*Recurrent monthly donation for the rest of your life or until your checks start bouncing.


Later Larry

Sapere aude!

"Put some jam on the bottom shelf where the little man can reach it."

"The Truth", it's just another liberal conspiracy!
 
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Hell they would indict Trump for sneezing w/o a hanky. Hey few more indictments and they can just hand hi the key to the oval office.




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The dam protecting the biden crime family is crumbling.
When even cnn is admitting that President Trump was right when he accused them of accepting foreign bribes, TREASON, the campaign to throw dementia joe under the bus is accelerating!!!


TAKE IT TO THE BANK!!!!!
Later, Bill Koski
 
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If there is a law saying ya can't sneeze without a hanky and he is doing it, write the fat orange F'k up and add it to all the other charges. Can't do the time, don't do the crime.

Oh I hear Jervanka are getting some well deserved attention for all the side hustles they had going while in the WH.

It's becoming a (crime) family affair.

Better get your checkbook out Billy, Donald is whining about having to actually fork over 200K bond.

Oh, save a little extra out of the beer money cause I hear the Odious Orange Orifice will be selling pictures & limited addition NFT's of his mug shot for the low low price of $99.99 each with only a small shipping and handling fee of 137.95 direct from Guangdong, China. NFT's are to be negotiated at time of sale, if you have to ask you can't afford it.

Billy wakeup, he is f'kd plain and simple.


Later Larry

Sapere aude!

"Put some jam on the bottom shelf where the little man can reach it."

"The Truth", it's just another liberal conspiracy!
 
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The dam protecting the biden crime family is crumbling.
When even cnn is admitting that President Trump was right when he accused them of accepting foreign bribes, TREASON, the campaign to throw dementia joe under the bus is accelerating!!!


Ths Billy going what about, what about, what about, oh hey look over there squirrel, squirrel, squirrel!

Naaa Billy, we were talking about 000 Triple Aught (Odious Orange Orifice) getting seriously butt hurt by the Laws of the land.

Get back when the Biden indictments come down. In the meantime we have soo many already handed down on Triple Aught to go over lets stick to them shall we.


Later Larry

Sapere aude!

"Put some jam on the bottom shelf where the little man can reach it."

"The Truth", it's just another liberal conspiracy!
 
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Brain dead addled dementia joe getting the middle finger and being ridiculed in demon-0RAT infested Hawaii!
Then in front of people that have lost everything they owned he babbles his whining LYING fairy tale about his cat being in danger during a minor kitchen fire.
His PUPPET MASTER has to exert more control, dementia is giving the farm away one idiotic statement at a time!


TAKE IT TO THE BANK!!!!!
Later, Bill Koski
 
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Be that as it may. Trump may not even be running, for a whole host of reasons, 91 so far, with more not far off on the horizon.

Then too, there is the Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3

Fourteenth Amendment, Section 3:

"No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability."

All it takes is any states Attorney General to invoke it and disallow Trump to run in their state. You can't win if you are not on the ballot. Which may of course be over ridden by 2/3rds vote in both houses of congress.

Some thought on this subject by Lawrence Tribe -> https://t.co/85oAp5oFAL


Re: 14th

Legal Scholars: Professor Laurence Tribe & retired federal judge Michael Luttig highlight in their article in
@TheAtlantic
the self-executing nature of the 14th Amendment's Section 3 "disqualification clause" that excludes from office in the United States government any person who after taking an oath to support and defend our Constitution then engages in insurrection or rebellion against the same or gives aid or comfort to the enemies of the Constitution.

The Constitution:
14th Amendment, Section 3:
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Federalist Society Law Professors:

Tribe & Luttig praise the forthcoming University of Pennsylvania law review article by two Federalist Society conservative law professors: William Baude of the University of Chicago and Michael Stokes Paulsen of the University of St. Thomas who conclude that Trump is ineligible to run again.

How would it work?
Individual actions would arise state by state likely under what are known as quo warranto laws which give a broad variety of stakeholders the ability to bring such actions. A good analysis of these is set forth in
https://justsecurity.org/84896...ionists-from-office/

Criticism of Section 3 is Off-Base
Critics of the process who claim that it is legally flawed because it is untested and would be unwieldy miss the mark. First, it is not untested. A recent case in New Mexico successfully removed a Jan 6 insurrectionist from a county commission post. https://citizensforethics.org/...uary-6-insurrection/
Second, the fact that all 50 states have different laws hardly supports an argument that a Constitutional provision is flawed.

Political Effect
Some concern may exist that any such efforts might backfire by either further energizing Trump's base. While that is likely true, in the short term it might allow Trump to more easily capture the Republican nomination that is likely to happen anyway. The real political damage to Trump would be in the general election where such efforts if successful in even one of the battleground would be crippling to Trump's ability to win the general election. Moreover, the timing of such actions and likely appeal to the Supreme Court make the effect far more likely to be felt in the general election.


Later Larry

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"Put some jam on the bottom shelf where the little man can reach it."

"The Truth", it's just another liberal conspiracy!
 
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Trump is competitive because voters overwhelmingly do not approve of Biden.
 
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Later Larry

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"Put some jam on the bottom shelf where the little man can reach it."

"The Truth", it's just another liberal conspiracy!
 
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Overnight (Aug 22, 2023) a new Yahoo/YouGov poll was released that shows President Joe Biden opening up a six point lead over Donald Trump.

This is Biden's largest lead yet over Trump in this poll and represents a trend showing the president opening a consistent lead on the Former Guy.

In fact, according to RCP Biden has now led Trump in 16 of the last 21 polls. Trump on the other hand has led in only 2 and both were from pro-Trump firms.

The media always likes to talk about "poor" poll numbers for the president, so I wonder if they will give this poll any coverage?


Later Larry

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"The Truth", it's just another liberal conspiracy!
 
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Later Larry

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"Put some jam on the bottom shelf where the little man can reach it."

"The Truth", it's just another liberal conspiracy!
 
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Originally posted by Larry Heath:
If there is a law saying ya can't sneeze without a hanky and he is doing it, write the fat orange F'k up and add it to all the other charges. Can't do the time, don't do the crime.

Oh I hear Jervanka are getting some well deserved attention for all the side hustles they had going while in the WH.

It's becoming a (crime) family affair.

Better get your checkbook out Billy, Donald is whining about having to actually fork over 200K bond.

Oh, save a little extra out of the beer money cause I hear the Odious Orange Orifice will be selling pictures & limited addition NFT's of his mug shot for the low low price of $99.99 each with only a small shipping and handling fee of 137.95 direct from Guangdong, China. NFT's are to be negotiated at time of sale, if you have to ask you can't afford it.

Billy wakeup, he is f'kd plain and simple.


Spoken like true libertard obama ass sniffing POS. That orange man is Greatest President of all time. Now biden is great too. he is greatest walking f-ck up of all time.




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