Whopper is always posting lies when he cannot back up his pie wh ole.

You should all know by now Whopper is all hot air and all mouth.

"Take it from the bank koski"..........

lmao

Blowhard Billy couldn’t find his own arss if he was sitting on both hands!

What on this good earth makes anyone think BK could provide (find) proof of anything, much less find proof for the ludicrous statement that there has been no warming, global or otherwise, in the last ten-year!

It’s gotten to the point where BK is nothing more than a common garden verity troll, and deserves just about as much attention.

Gore ice sculpture unveiled in Fairbanks

FAIRBANKS, Alaska (AP) - Al Gore is now a wintertime fixture in Fairbanks.
Well, make that an ice sculpture of the 2007 Nobel Prize winner and leader in the movement to draw attention to climate change and global warming.

Local businessman Craig Compeau unveiled the frozen likeness on Monday.

The 8 1/2-foot-tall, 5-ton sculpture dominates a downtown street corner from its perch on the back of a flatbed truck.

Compeau says he's a "moderate" critic of global warming theories. He used Monday's unveiling of the sculpture to invite Gore to Fairbanks -- where it was 22 degrees on Monday -- to explain his global warming theories.

He says it will stand through March, unless it melts before then.


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Originally posted by Larry Heath:
Blowhard Billy couldn’t find his own arss if he was sitting on both hands!

What on this good earth makes anyone think BK could provide (find) proof of anything, much less find proof for the ludicrous statement that there has been no warming, global or otherwise, in the last ten-year!

It’s gotten to the point where BK is nothing more than a common garden verity troll, and deserves just about as much attention.

What do you have to say now Blow Hard Billy????


http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=390686...&ch=4226724&src=news

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""THERE HAS BEEN NO MEASURABLE WARMING IN THE LAST TEN (10) YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
In fact saint algore looks like he's enjoying the chill in Alaska!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In fact the ice statue probably has more personality then saint al and certainly more intelligence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This message has been edited. Last edited by: Bill Koski,

Well...You're either ignorant..or just plain stupid. Maybe you don't understand the terminology used like...Melting!

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Originally posted by announcer:
Well...You're either ignorant..or just plain stupid. Maybe you don't understand the terminology used like...Melting!

He's a lost cause. But it sure is fun making him look like an idiot. I still haven't seen any proof.

(And for those who love to use isolated incidents for their arguments, it was 72° in Denver today and it was the 5th straight day above 60°)

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In fact the ice statue probably has more personality then saint al and certainly more intelligence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe we should compare saint al with Blow Hard Billy.
LMAO

Koski, did you find any proof yet?

Where oh where is the dolt that has never found a reputable news source???????????????
He is either asleep at the keyboard or too ashamed to admit he has been in the dark all of these years relying on the Rush Limbaugh archives to keep him informed??????????????????

When the ice streams finally reach the coast, they flow out onto the ocean surface, forming a thick floating platform known as an ice shelf. Glaciers, which are smaller and shallower, form what are called ice tongues as they empty their ice out onto the water. Ice generally leaves by melting and calving off into icebergs at the edge of the shelf, where the ice meets the open sea. Shelves can extend outwards on the water for years, or even decades, before calving off at all. Near the shoreline, where water flows underneath the ice shelf, anchor ice can form and fasten the ice to the bottom. This occurs because the melting of the continental ice freshens the sea water and makes the freezing point rise.

The largest ice shelf is the Ross Ice Shelf, which is about 800 km (500 miles) across and roughly the size of France. It covers most of the Ross Sea. Several hundred meters thick, it faces the sea with a huge vertical wall of ice, 15 to 50 m (50 to 160 ft) above the water and nearly 600 km (350 miles) long. The Ross Ice Shelf is probably most famous as the place of Robert Falcon Scott’s death (see Scott). Buried in the ice, which drifts north towards the open sea at a rate of 500 meters a year, Scott will finally be laid to rest in the Southern Ocean.

The second largest is the Filchner-Ronne Ice Shelf in the Weddell Sea, slightly smaller than the Ross Ice Shelf. Growing perpetually, ice shelves always calve into icebergs that break away and drift northwards. In recent years, the ice shelf has drawn attention for the breaking away of some especially large icebergs, both larger than the state of Delaware: one named A-38 in October 1998, and another named A-43 in May 2000.

Most famous is the Larsen Ice Shelf, along the east coast of the Antarctic Peninsula. It is actually comprised of 3 smaller ice sub-shelves that occupy three different bays: Larsen A, Larsen B, and Larsen C, in order of increasing size. Larsen A disintegrated in 1995, and Larsen B in 2002. Larsen C still exists. While most ice shelves break up by perpetually calving off of large chunks as the shelf extends further out to sea, the Larsen Ice Shelf disintegrated into hundreds of small pieces all at once, like the shattering of glass. This is considered unusual and has been interpreted as a sign of climate change (see Melting Antarctica? Global Warming and the Consequences of Research).

As a result, the Larsen Ice Shelf, and Larsen B in particular, has recently risen to popular prominence. The breakup of Larsen B appears as evidence for global warming in Al Gore’s film An Inconvenient Truth – and also in The Day After Tomorrow. It has also inspired a song by British Sea Power entitled “Oh Larsen B” (see Modern conceptions/Pulp media).


Disintegration of Larsen B



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WILKINS ICE SHELF, Antarctica (Reuters) - A huge Antarctic ice shelf is on the brink of collapse with just a sliver of ice holding it in place, the latest victim of global warming that is altering maps of the frozen continent.

"We've come to the Wilkins Ice Shelf to see its final death throes," David Vaughan, a glaciologist at the British Antarctic Survey (BAS), told Reuters after the first -- and probably last -- plane landed near the narrowest part of the ice.

The flat-topped shelf has an area of thousands of square kilometers, jutting 20 meters (65 ft) out of the sea off the Antarctic Peninsula.

But it is held together only by an ever-thinning 40-km (25-mile) strip of ice that has eroded to an hour-glass shape just 500 meters wide at its narrowest.

In 1950, the strip was almost 100 km wide.

"It really could go at any minute," Vaughan said on slushy snow in bright sunshine beside a red Twin Otter plane that landed on skis. He added that the ice bridge could linger weeks or months.

The Wilkins once covered 16,000 sq km (6,000 sq miles). It has lost a third of its area but is still about the size of Jamaica or the U.S. state of Connecticut. Once the strip breaks up, the sea is likely to sweep away much of the remaining ice.

Icebergs the shape and size of shopping malls already dot the sea around the shelf as it disintegrates. Seals bask in the southern hemisphere summer sunshine on icebergs by expanses of open water.

A year ago, BAS said the Wilkins was "hanging by a thread" after an aerial survey. "Miraculously we've come back a summer later and it's still here. If it was hanging by a thread last year, it's hanging by a filament this year," Vaughan said.

Nine other shelves have receded or collapsed around the Antarctic peninsula in the past 50 years, often abruptly like the Larsen A in 1995 or the Larsen B in 2002. The trend is widely blamed on climate change caused by heat-trapping gases from burning fossil fuels.

WARMING TO BLAME

"This ice shelf and the nine other shelves that we have seen with a similar trajectory are a consequence of warming," Vaughan said.

In total, about 25,000 sq km of ice shelves have been lost, changing maps of Antarctica. Ocean sediments indicate that some shelves had been in place for at least 10,000 years.

Vaughan stuck a GPS monitoring station on a long metal pole into the Wilkins ice on behalf of Dutch scientists. It will track ice movements via satellite.

The shelf is named after Australian George Hubert Wilkins, an early Antarctic aviator who is set to join an exclusive club of people who have a part of the globe named after them that later vanishes.

Loss of ice shelves does not raise sea levels significantly because the ice is floating and already mostly submerged by the ocean. But the big worry is that their loss will allow ice sheets on land to move faster, adding extra water to the seas.

Wilkins has almost no pent-up glaciers behind it. But ice shelves further south hold back vast volumes of ice. "When those are removed the glaciers will flow faster," Vaughan said.

Temperatures on the Antarctic Peninsula have warmed by about 3 Celsius (5.4 Fahrenheit) since 1950, the fastest rise in the southern hemisphere. There is little sign of warming elsewhere in Antarctica.

BAS scientists and two Reuters reporters stayed about an hour on the shelf at a point about 2 km wide.

"It's very unlikely that our presence here is enough to initiate any cracks," Vaughan said. "But it is likely to happen fairly soon, weeks to months, and I don't want to be here when it does."

The U.N. Climate Panel, of which Vaughan is a senior member, projected in 2007 that world sea levels were likely to rise by between 18 and 59 cm (7 and 23 inches) this century.

But it did not factor in any possible acceleration of ice loss from Antarctica. Even a small change in the rate could affect sea levels, and Antarctica's ice sheets contain enough water in total to raise world sea levels by 57 meters.

About 190 nations have agreed to work out a new U.N. treaty by the end of 2009 to slow global warming, reining in emissions from burning fossil fuels in power plants, cars and factories.

(Editing by Andrew Roche)

TOKYO (Reuters) - Japan launched a satellite on Friday to monitor greenhouse gases around the world in the hope that the data it gathers will help global efforts to combat climate change.

The satellite, called "Ibuki" or "vitality" in Japanese, will enable scientists to measure densities of carbon dioxide and methane from 56,000 locations on the Earth's surface, including the atmosphere over open seas.

That would compare with just 282 land-based observation sites as of last October, mostly of which are in the United States, Europe and other industrialized regions, the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency has said.

Japanese officials hope the data will add credence to existing research on greenhouse gases, including reports by the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), a group of hundreds of scientists.

"It would contribute to raising certainties in IPCC research that greenhouse gases are increasing," said Yasushi Tadami, deputy director of research and information at the Environment Ministry's global environment bureau.

"It will also advance research on the mechanism of carbon cycles."

Equipped with two sensors, the satellite will track infrared rays from the Earth, which will help calculate the densities of carbon dioxide and methane because these two greenhouse gases absorb the rays at certain wavelengths.

NASA is sponsoring its own Orbiting Carbon Observatory to be launched this year to collect measurements on carbon dioxide in the Earth's atmosphere.

Both satellites come as about 190 countries try to craft a broader climate treaty by December to replace the Kyoto Protocol that binds wealthy nations to emissions targets between 2008 and 2012.

Data on greenhouse gas densities may not be ready for those talks by the end of the year, but Tadami hoped the findings are nevertheless useful in mapping future climate policies.

"The satellite will be in orbit for five years and we hope that during that time, the data leads to more detailed climate policies," he said.

A top U.N. climate official said last week that anything to improve global monitoring systems of greenhouse gases would be helpful in finding ways to curb and adapt to global warming.

"Being able to measure what is happening is incredibly important to developing a robust international climate change response," Yvo de Boer, head of the U.N. Climate Change Secretariat, told Reuters last week.

"You wouldn't expect it in this modern day and age, but actually our ability to monitor greenhouse gas emissions is still relatively weak -- weak in industrialized countries but even weaker in many developing countries."

(Reporting by Chisa Fujioka; Editing by Hugh Lawson)

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Satellite images show that a large hunk of Antarctica's Wilkins Ice Shelf has started to collapse in a fast-warming region of the continent, scientists said on Tuesday.

The area of collapse measured about 160 square miles of the Wilkins Ice Shelf, according to satellite imagery from the University of Colorado's National Snow and Ice Data Center.

The Wilkins Ice Shelf is a broad sheet of permanent floating ice that spans about 5,000 square miles and is located on the southwest Antarctic Peninsula about 1,000 miles south of South America.

"Block after block of ice is just tumbling and crumbling into the ocean," Ted Scambos, lead scientist at the National Snow and Ice Data Center, said in a telephone interview.

"The shelf is not just cracking off and a piece goes drifting away, but totally shattering. These kinds of events, we don't see them very often. But we want to understand them better because these are the things that lead to a complete loss of the ice shelf," Scambos added.

Scambos said a large part of the ice shelf is now supported by only a thin strip of ice. This last "ice buttress" could collapse and about half the total ice shelf area could be lost in the next few years, Scambos added.

British Antarctic Survey scientist David Vaughan said in a statement: "This shelf is hanging by a thread."

"One corner of it that's exposed to the ocean is shattering in a pattern that we've seen in a few places over the past 10 or 15 years. In every case, we've eventually concluded that it's a result of climate warming," Scambos added.

Satellite images showing the collapse began on February 28, as a large iceberg measuring 25.5 by 1.5 miles fell away from the ice shelf's southwestern front leading to a runaway disintegration of the shelf interior, Scambos said.

A plane also was sent over the area to get photographs of the shelf as it was disintegrating, he added.

Scambos said this ice shelf has been in place for at least a few hundred years, but warm air and exposure to ocean waves are causing a breakup. In the past half century, the Antarctic Peninsula has witnessed a warming as fast as anywhere on the planet, according to scientists.

"The warming that's going on in the peninsula is pretty clearly tied to greenhouse gas increases and the change that they have in the atmospheric circulation around the Antarctic," Scambos said.

With Antarctica's summer melt season coming to an end, the he said he does not expect the ice shelf to disintegrate further immediately, but come January scientists will be watching to see if it continues to fall apart.

(Editing by Cynthia Osterman)



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Antarctica's Wilkins Ice Shelf eroding at an unforeseen pace
Scientists say the breakup is a harbinger of what's to come if the region continues warming.
By Peter N. Spotts | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor
posted March 28, 2008 at 4:30 p.m. EDT

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Reporter Peter N. Spotts discusses how the British Antarctic Survey captured footage of the disintigrating Wilkins Ice Shelf.A crumbling ice shelf along the West Antarctic Peninsula has become the latest polar poster child for global warming.

This week, researchers in the United States, Britain, and Taiwan released images of long stretches of ice shearing away from the shelf. What started with the loss of a relatively thin, 26-mile-long iceberg at the end of February cascaded into the loss of 160 square miles of ice by the end of last week.

Its erosion won't affect sea levels. Like an ice cube in a filled cup, it's already in the water. And the handful of glaciers that feed into the shelf, called the Wilkins Ice Shelf, are small. Still, researchers say, the event represents a marker. The region has seen unprecedented rates of warming during the past 50 years. Two of the 10 shelves along the peninsula have vanished within the past 30 years. Another five have lost between 60 percent and 92 percent of their original extent. Of the 10, Wilkins is the southernmost shelf in the area to start buckling under global warming's effects.

"Wilkins is a stepping stone in a larger process," says Ted Scambos, a glaciologist at the National Snow and Ice Data Center in Boulder, Colo., who discovered the breakup in satellite images. "It's really a story of what's yet to come if the mainland of Antarctica begins to warm."

So far, the shelf has lost about 3 percent of its total extent, which covers an area more than twice the size of Rhode Island and is up to 820 feet thick. But all that sits between the shelf's new seaward edge and a vast expanse of much weaker shelf ice is what researchers dub a "thread" of strong ice. And Wilkins's erosion is happening faster than researchers projected.

"In 1993, we predicted that this was going to be a vulnerable ice shelf," says David Vaughan of the British Antarctic Survey. "But we got the time scales completely wrong. We were saying 30 years at that time, and now it's happened within 15."

Glaciologists are concerned about Antarctica's ice shelves because most of them represent brakes of solid ice that slow the glaciers' flow to the sea. Without those brakes, the glaciers would surge, calve into icebergs, and significantly raise the sea level.

The region of greatest concern is West Antarctica, which includes the peninsula. Using satellites, scientists have been tracking snowfall, ice loss, and changes in the region's gravity field to gauge the amount of mass the continent's two large ice sheets are gaining or losing. The West Antarctic Ice Sheet is separated from its eastern sibling by a long chain of mountains, so gains or no change in mass for the continent as a whole may still mask significant changes on the West Antarctic Ice Sheet.

Recent studies have added to a growing body of evidence that key glaciers flowing from the West Antarctic Ice Sheet are thinning at rates not seen since the last ice age. For instance, for the past 4,700 years, the Pine Island Glacier has thinned at a rate of about 1-1/2 inches a year, according to a team of scientists from Britain and Germany. That rate is similar to those of other major glaciers in the region. But between 1992 and 1996, Pine Island Glacier thinned at an average rate of 63 inches a year. Their results appear in the March edition of the journal Geology.

Meanwhile, a team led by the Jet Propulsion Laboratory's Eric Rignot published satellite radar data showing that while East Antarctica's ice sheet lost virtually no mass between 1992 and 2006, the West Antarctic Ice Sheet was losing 132 billion tons of ice a year by the end of that period. Scientists attribute the losses to warmer air and ocean temperatures, which melt the glacier's shelves from above and from below.

But the Wilkins Ice Shelf is a different breed in the way it forms, explains Dr. Vaughan.

Although it's been stable for as long as scientists have been able to reach the continent and study it, the shelf scientists see crumbling today appears to have formed either between the Roman era and the Medieval Warm Period or with the onset of the Little Ice Age. Indeed, he adds, "it's kind of a come-and-go ice shelf" compared with the other vanishing shelves, which have been stable far longer.

Wilkins appears to have started as seasonal sea ice that gradually thickened, Dr. Vaughn adds. Shelves built of glacial ice are stout, because the weight of each succeeding winter's snow has compressed the layers beneath until the glacial ice becomes solid.

By contrast, Wilkins and a handful of ice shelves like it are more porous. Over centuries they too thickened with each winter's snowfall. The weight of the new snow, however, drives a preceding year's layer under water before the upper layers build enough weight to squeeze the tiny nooks and crannies out of it.

The task now is to tease out the precise mechanisms triggering the recent collapse, researchers say. By figuring out the breakup mechanism in detail, scientists should be able to improve the models they use to anticipate the behavior of other ice shelves as climate and ocean conditions continue to change, Dr. Scambos says.

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Originally posted by Bill Koski:

quote:

""THERE HAS BEEN NO MEASURABLE WARMING IN THE LAST TEN (10) YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
In fact saint algore looks like he's enjoying the chill in Alaska!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In fact the ice statue probably has more personality then saint al and certainly more intelligence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You wanted measurable warming, well here it is.
How reliable the sources are, well you in your intelligent wisdom , tell us, lol.


Global warming , whether it's our fault or natural is the biggest question we seem to have.
But make no mistake, we have affected some climates due to our pollution, I know this for a fact after having lived in L.A. for a couple years and drove down Mount Palomar into the clowd of smog that would hang for days at a time. It causes extra yukky humidity that you can see or your cars,lol , and smell, breath, and taste.
That is a climate that we affect.

In return , Mt Saint Helens explosion eclipses man in climate contamination.

Koski is the senior here, so he makes the rules. If he says it, it must be true!