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I’m having a 9” pro series nodular iron case assembly built using Strange parts and need to purchase a MW spool because I have MW 35 spline axles. I’m looking at the MW lightweight steel spool. For $90 more I can purchase the aluminum spool and it saves 3.9#.

What are the opinions on steel vs aluminum spool in a nodular case?
 
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3.8 lbs for 90 bucks is no brainer IMO. Then I am weight cutting crazed. Cheap HP. As for durablity I know quite a few guys that run the 35 spline for weight savings and can run aluminum spool for more savings, None have had issue with the that I have heard of.

I bought 40 spline axle because had 3 spools and cases, None the bigger bearing, Did not think about not being able to run aluminum spool while doing so and kind of regret it now. If doing it again I would go 35 spline drilled axles and aluminum spool.




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You have a steel Nodular case that is heavy, (about 20 Lbs heavier than aluminum) I would replace it before the spool if weight is the concern. Now 4 Lbs on the spool is not much and an aluminum spool may not last as long? Supposedly removing rotating weight is supposed to help more than fixed weight. I have not seen that in my program but it does all add up. I do not think you would be able to see any difference in ET between a steel and aluminum spool.


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Not about saving rear weight and definitely using a steel nodular case. But do have a choice of spool material and reason for asking advice.
 
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I’m having a 9” pro series nodular iron case assembly built using Strange parts and need to purchase a MW spool because I have MW 35 spline axles. I’m looking at the MW lightweight steel spool. For $90 more I can purchase the aluminum spool and it saves 3.9#.

What are the opinions on steel vs aluminum spool in a nodular case?


M & M,

What are you trying to accomplish with an aluminum spool, besides 3.9 lb. weight savings? Plus, you're giving up a material difference in durability.

Many members on this site need to remind themselves they're BRACKET RACING, this is a Bracket Talk Forum! I try to remind myself before each time I make a change. Wink

I always try to weigh the Pros & Cons when considering a change(s) in my bracket program & my secondary, index program. I can & have run much quicker/faster, but I chose to slow the tune-up so the Pros out weight the Cons.

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What are you trying to accomplish with an aluminum spool, besides 3.9 lb. weight savings? Plus, you're giving up a material difference in durability. :


Just asking the question because I have a choice between steel and aluminum and never have used aluminum. I’m leaning towards lightened steel spool vs aluminum just because its iron case.
 
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Heck never even thought about nodular case only been 40 years since had one.LOL

I still say if you sav e 4lbs for 90 bucks I would go for it. I mean hell I klnow guys with blowers running aluminum spools for 100's of runs and no issue.




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What are you trying to accomplish with an aluminum spool, besides 3.9 lb. weight savings? Plus, you're giving up a material difference in durability. :


Just asking the question because I have a choice between steel and aluminum and never have used aluminum. I’m leaning towards lightened steel spool vs aluminum just because its iron case.


What's Mark Williams recommending? They're the only ones I would listen too!

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Originally posted by B KING: What's Mark Williams recommending? They're the only ones I would listen too!


Think I will. On their website all the lower hp and very extreme third member builds use steel, while the in-between builds use aluminum. Go figure.
 
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I havnet used a iron center but have run a aluminum spool at 2500 hp with zero issues...for a couple seasons... eventually a ring bolt or two came loose and ruined the spool but it never failed...


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I haven't used a iron center but have run a aluminum spool at 2500 hp with zero issues...for a couple seasons... eventually a ring bolt or two came loose and ruined the spool but it never failed...


Interesting. MW offers 7/16 ring gear bolt option with the spools and they are drilled for safety wire. Talked to MW and they said both offerings are a great choice.
 
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Either one I would say. I doubt very much you will ever see the gains from the aluminum - except if you have to pull it out it will be a little lighter. LOL.



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I have the MW 3.06 case, so I have the lightened steel spool and the lightened 4.29 R&P. The MW aluminum spool requires the larger 3.25 case.

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I havnet used a iron center but have run a aluminum spool at 2500 hp with zero issues...for a couple seasons... eventually a ring bolt or two came loose and ruined the spool but it never failed...


If Jr's 2500 Hp motor does not tear up an aluminum spool my junk sure can not hurt one.........


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