Hi guys ,
1st question .
Hoosier slicks losing air . If not fitting tubes is it still paint and dry inside of slick with dishwashing liquid to help ?
2nd question .
Rather than screwing a slick/rim can i glue it like I do with my radials to stop any slippage ? This is for a mates 3900lb Chev on Hoosier slicks . He doesnt want to screw his Centrelines or other alloy rims . He has screws in his steel rims
TIA

Tex

Permatex High Tack Gasket sealant will help keep tire from moving. I also do not like to use rim screws on my wheels. The Permatex stuff is red and works pretty good.

As for tire leaking air the Dawn dish soap should work on all brands of tires including Hoosiers. I do think the Dawn brand works best for this.

Tex I have seen many people who say they don’t screw their slicks. They just make sure the beads and rims are clean and dry when mounting.

I put three heavy coats of soap in my Mickeys drying between each coat and they hold air really well.

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Originally posted by CURTIS REED:
Tex I have seen many people who say they don’t screw their slicks. They just make sure the beads and rims are clean and dry when mounting.

I did that for too many years & never got rid of the slippage. This was using radials. The fix for me was double beadlocks!

2BKING

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Originally posted by B KING:

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Originally posted by CURTIS REED:
Tex I have seen many people who say they don’t screw their slicks. They just make sure the beads and rims are clean and dry when mounting.

I did that for too many years & never got rid of the slippage. This was using radials. The fix for me was double beadlocks!

2BKING

My car came with screws when I bought it so I haven't personally done it. I have seen a lot of cars that do.

Your favorite person always touted it also. LOL

If you have a tire move on the rim near the finish line when it's starting to grow, you will never ask this question again.
Screw Them!

I stopped coating the inside of the slicks with soap as it didn't seem necessary with Hoosiers. I have coated all brands before and it does work.
For slipping without tubes or screws I clean the rims with acetone and clean the beads of the tires once they are mounted. Then I spray the beads with hairspray and air them up.

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I put three heavy coats of soap in my Mickeys drying between each coat and they hold air really well.

It's 2024 and one buys a $900+ set of bias ply tires, and then has to apply something to improve them from their known leaking. Even the manufacture doesn’t care to improve this decades known problem. They wear it as some sort of badge. They are the King of burnout tires in a door car if one needs that.

With the amount of companies doing bead lock conversions for a reasonable price, switching from screws to B/L could be an excellent upgrade.

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Originally posted by markemark:

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I put three heavy coats of soap in my Mickeys drying between each coat and they hold air really well.

It's 2024 and one buys a $900+ set of bias ply tires, and then has to apply something to improve them from their known leaking. Even the manufacture doesn’t care to improve this decades known problem. They wear it as some sort of badge. They are the King of burnout tires in a door car if one needs that.

With the amount of companies doing bead lock conversions for a reasonable price, switching from screws to B/L could be an excellent upgrade.

One, there are quite a few parts that I buy requiring some type of work for them to be ready.

Two, this is the first set of Mickeys that I have ever run and I'm not even sure I'm sold on them yet.

Three, we use them in a way that goes against manufacturer's recommendations.

I get the feeling it won't be something you won't ever have to worry about.

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Originally posted by CURTIS REED:
One, there are quite a few parts that I buy requiring some type of work for them to be ready.

Two, this is the first set of Mickeys that I have ever run and I'm not even sure I'm sold on them yet.

Three, we use them in a way that goes against manufacturer's recommendations.

I get the feeling it won't be something you won't ever have to worry about.

Tires are sold as a ready to install product. Where MT gets away with bias ply leakers is they placed this disclaimer on the side of the tire that reads “TUBE TYPE” in the size I run.

I believe it is wise to switch between tires (manufacture/ size) to see what could possibly work better. I’ve run the three major brands and the recent switch back to non-leakers has improved my car given the racing surface and lessened the install prep. If I owned a second set of wheels I’d probably have both tire brands.

I did the dawn dish soap when first got T's and they hold air fine. Even 1.5 months they may loose .5 pound.

I have run M/Ts for a long time, always leaked and I used dawn on the inside. The last set I had my wheels beadlocked, no more leakage, been in garage for a month and tires still up...go figure

thanks guys for the replies .
We will try dish soap .
I will either reuse his steelies and screw them or try the cemtrelines and glue them same as my radials , yes i use Permatex gasket paste .
As to beadlocks . Extremely expensive here in Oz , plus he has stock wheel wells and stock style rear suspension so space is limited . He can only get a Centreline Autodrag 8 1/2"rim in there . And my understanding is beadlocks widen the wheel area so that sort of counts that out .

Tex

PS he was using Hoosier 29x10(?) W seemed to hold air , he now has the NON W .

I've never screwed or glued, movement is minimal.
More air pressure is better.
Soaping the inside on the sidewalls works, I like Palmolive.
200+ runs, mine move about 2 inches, over time.
You could take a center punch and knurl the seat of the bead for some grip?

Goob ,
i understand he runs 16-17psi normally .
Thanks
Tex

When sealing the bead with Permatex how difficult is it to breakdown the tire bead when eventually replacing the tires?

I am using conventional rims with Hoosiers that were designed for beadlocks, installing rim skrews was a two person, two day absolute nightmare. It was nearly impossible to install the skrews.

Bob

Bob ,
I have a tyre machine . Never an issue to pop the bead .Worst case just work way around .

Tex

I did the dawn thing on one set. Never again.
Darn stuff corroded the hell out of the rims.

Did you let the Dawn dry before mounting ?

I've never had an issue with corrosion.

It's been a decade or so but I bet that I did not. I don't think I ever heard anyone mention drying until now. Went to BLs soon after and never looked back.