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Originally posted by Tom396:
Man, sounds like the rich people's problems are continuing to increase. Almost makes me glad I don't have to deal with those. Take care. Tom Worthington

That is the cool thing about bracket racing. You can spend as much or as little money as you want. Do not take away from your family or savings to go race. Our racing should be done with disposable income anyway.

I to have heard the Get'm carbs is involved in an infringement lawsuit. My understanding is they had the manufacturer that does the machining do same thing for them and they put their name on it with out patent rights to the designer. Or something like that and if that is the case both machine shop and Get'm carbs should be hit hard.

Does not change the fact if indeed the motor in Boo Honeycutt's car has a Get'm carb it is running good. 4.18 and pulling a lot of timing out for over 1 second N/A is running pretty good. Same with the 9* heads some say they are no good but this one seems to be pretty decent.

Sunset dyno video says a 655 9 degree is 1400 horsepower and a 622 9 degree is 1360 horsepower

In the second video he says $3500-$3700 for a 45hp increase.

Shyt...... Even at my level of racing that aint a horrible deal, for you go fast guys that's a steal !!!

I know the MBE 9 degree manifold was $5k last year

I think the biggest advantage to a billet manifold is that you aren't limited to what the casting offers. You can design in changes easily and produce a completely finished intake right off the bat. With a casting, you have what the casting is to work with, and I know there are some out there with literally dozens of hours of porting, welding, reshaping, etc, and still don't perform as well as a billet that's been well designed. It's hard to change a casting, but a billet is a simple cad file update.....

They are light too, about a third the weight of a cast intake....roughly....

Yeah 1400+ on Boo’s dyno sheet i was told. The problem is that at 4.20s on a normal bracket track you’re iffy every round. My opinion is 4.50 and slower just to make sure you’re getting down it all the time. Obviously some bracket tracks are going to be kept up better than others.

Another positive of machined manifolds is that foundries are really struggling right now. It’s so hard for them to get help because you can make more money stocking a shelf. I mean who wants to work somewhere that’s 100 degrees in the winter? Prices will have to go way up for castings so they can pay people. Like I said in another thread we are looking for another foundry right now to keep up with our castings.

the biggest advantage of a billet manifold is weight savings

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Originally posted by Tom396:
Man, sounds like the rich people's problems are continuing to increase. Almost makes me glad I don't have to deal with those. Take care. Tom Worthington

Where is the like button!!

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Originally posted by 1320racer:
the biggest advantage of a billet manifold is weight savings

5 grand for 10 pounds?

On a surface level the better expense is if it actually gains 45 horsepower for the 5 grand

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Originally posted by 1320racer:
the biggest advantage of a billet manifold is weight savings

That’s only one. The real advantage is they can be machined to fit each motor application with a keyboard and then press go for any cylinder head motor combo.

that advantage belongs to the manufacturer.

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Originally posted by racerdude2054:

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Originally posted by 1320racer:
the biggest advantage of a billet manifold is weight savings

5 grand for 10 pounds?

On a surface level the better expense is if it actually gains 45 horsepower for the 5 grand

yep and it doesn't!

Someone needs to get good at HIGH PERFORMANCE composites if you want to save a few lbs.

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Originally posted by 1320racer:
that advantage belongs to the manufacturer.

I would say the builder and customer that’s willing to pay that tab. The manufacturer is in business to make money. Can’t fault that

I'm not but that's who that advantage belongs to.

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Lots of people will spend $6K on a vacation without blinking an eye, the only thing they have when its over is the memory. Whether you buy a billet manifold to gain a little HP, to save a little weight or just buy it because it looks pretty, you get to keep it as long as you want, it is an investment into your racing program, same as a set of heads or block.

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Originally posted by Big Steve:
Lots of people will spend $6K on a vacation without blinking an eye, the only thing they have when its over is the memory. Whether you buy a billet manifold to gain a little HP, to save a little weight or just buy it because it looks pretty, you get to keep it as long as you want, it is an investment into your racing program, same as a set of heads or block.

Yep, and they will spend that 6K year over year in some cases.....How many times will you spend it on the manifold?

Something else about a billet piece. If the designer/manufacturer of it makes a small change, you can send it back to be updated, where in some cases with a cast unit, you're gonna be into a new intake.....but that also depends on what changes are made in the original design.....

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Originally posted by Big Steve:
Lots of people will spend $6K on a vacation without blinking an eye, the only thing they have when its over is the memory. Whether you buy a billet manifold to gain a little HP, to save a little weight or just buy it because it looks pretty, you get to keep it as long as you want, it is an investment into your racing program, same as a set of heads or block.

Quoted for the truth!

I,m curious to what you all think a quality cast manifold hand worked cost ...lol... Obviously you have not bought a good one if you think they are cheap LMAO. A billet intake has tons more potential and less shop labor to produce. If you take the cost difference of a true worked cast intake and a billet at the time of the build you might be surprised or look at a sheet metal cost lol......

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Originally posted by 67TSCHEVY2:
I,m curious to what you all think a quality cast manifold hand worked cost ...lol... Obviously you have not bought a good one if you think they are cheap LMAO.

It depends on who does your manifolds for you. Some of the shops are STUPID for working a cast mnaifold compared to others. One shop in particular is WAY overpriced IMO.