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Anyone here had a cam ground by Jones cams in Denver NC. I have a cam he says he can grind into what I need no problem. Well its 3 weeks turn around That and its only 48* cam I have laying here.

Going from crane 296/500 to a 284/286 duration cam with little more lift. Hate to screw up a really good cam but since not running the blower its little on big side with 296 @ .050. Plus there are no cam cores to be had right n ow.
Just wondering if anyone here has used him and thoughts on work.




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I have bought two jones cams over the years. It may take a while but for me it was always worth it.

Would definitely recommend him.


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What are you putting this cam in?
Jones is good.
 
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I had a Jones cam ground a was very satisfied. I took awhile but it was perfect for my mild 383 sbc foot brake combo. No regrets at all.


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What are you putting this cam in?
Jones is good.


Sry. Just figure most here know .Its a 482 TFX 92 Hemi with BAE older style not fat heads injected. Basically my old TA/D motor minus blower and lot smaller pump. Might also go in a 526 or 540 combo.




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Mike custom ground my cam and it took about 3 weeks but that's been a few years ago....might be more wait now with everything going on.
I will say that his cam out performed my Bullet cam.
 
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I have a Mike Jones cam in the Lamplighter engine. It performs as expected.


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Mike has done cams for my engines and some of my customers. He knows his cams and if you fill out his required paperwork correctly you will be pleasantly surprised. Remember its what is under the curve that counts.
 
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Thanks guys/ I almost want to yank cam and send it to him now.At same time the 4 weeks to get it back is minor issue,maybe. Would like to get few more runs on whats in the car and know what new cam actually picks car up. Now that its getting to weather where I can handle temp better and not get staggering ass drunk feeling I get when it is in the 90's at time. I hate to not know how much.

For what its worth desk top dyno show 51 hp and 48 lbs tq better with smaller cam.




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I don't know why I thought Mike was a designer and not a grinder. I figured he had his cams ground for him. Am I hearing he actually grinds them?


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Yes he does it all.


Bill Simpkins
74 Nova
SBC 406
3240 pounds
Speierracing heads

60 1.27 (10/16)
1/8 6.03@111 (10/16)
Best 9.87@131 on the rev limitor 1 Feb 2013


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wheelie

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Good thing he is 90 miles from house. Qondering how much quicker he could get it if I delivered and licked it up. Figure 36 bucks each trip less if not driving my truck.

Be great if I could pick up at Charlotte race. Got to be there anyway. Plus cost might keep me from picking up more nitro .Nope will be playing with it all weekend on Larry's dollar and that is just going to make it worst.LOL




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What are you putting this cam in?
Jones is good.


Sry. Just figure most here know .Its a 482 TFX 92 Hemi with BAE older style not fat heads injected. Basically my old TA/D motor minus blower and lot smaller pump. Might also go in a 526 or 540 combo.


Are they the +.100 heads or old 175cc heads. The +.100 will not give you enough compression and the 175cc or the .100 heads without a blower may net about 700hp, those old engines need boost and a lot of it to wake them up. Who is flowing your fuel system?
How many gallon pump?
 
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OLD HEADS.bASICALLY ORIGINAL HEMI IN BILLET WITH FEW UPGRADES.

Had chance at some JFR t.100 heads cheap,they found a pallet full they did not know they had.Must be ruff.

Have 14:1 compression,measured (78 cc's poured volume)not told.Thats after some massaging to get minimum clearances.
My system. Have 35 years playing with FI and cpl thousand in phone calls with Gorr back when we ran TA/FC and TA/D. While I will never say flowed is bad I don't need flowed system for MFI. Besides fact that with todays data logger you practically have a flow bench on car.
Pump flow is 6.85 gpm.aheads are not a problem. These have ran 4.70's injected in milder combo and slightly heavier car.




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OLD HEADS.bASICALLY ORIGINAL HEMI IN BILLET WITH FEW UPGRADES.

Had chance at some JFR t.100 heads cheap,they found a pallet full they did not know they had.Must be ruff.

Have 14:1 compression,measured (78 cc's poured volume)not told.Thats after some massaging to get minimum clearances.
My system. Have 35 years playing with FI and cpl thousand in phone calls with Gorr back when we ran TA/FC and TA/D. While I will never say flowed is bad I don't need flowed system for MFI. Besides fact that with todays data logger you practically have a flow bench on car.
Pump flow is 6.85 gpm.aheads are not a problem. These have ran 4.70's injected in milder combo and slightly heavier car.


Just saying, two blow dryers would be great on that combo. Really fun.


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OLD HEADS.bASICALLY ORIGINAL HEMI IN BILLET WITH FEW UPGRADES.

Had chance at some JFR t.100 heads cheap,they found a pallet full they did not know they had.Must be ruff.

Have 14:1 compression,measured (78 cc's poured volume)not told.Thats after some massaging to get minimum clearances.
My system. Have 35 years playing with FI and cpl thousand in phone calls with Gorr back when we ran TA/FC and TA/D. While I will never say flowed is bad I don't need flowed system for MFI. Besides fact that with todays data logger you practically have a flow bench on car.
Pump flow is 6.85 gpm.aheads are not a problem. These have ran 4.70's injected in milder combo and slightly heavier car.


35 years of experience, and you are on ITA begging for help? 6.85 GPM is not even close to what you need. You are trying to build a copy of an A/fuel engine and you are way off. Don't take it personally.
 
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Further, claims 35 years experience and he can’t spec his own can no mind out of all the cam companies he choses an Internet forum guru/salesman. Didn't think of that

Meanwhile I’m at Indy and I’ll guarantee, you’d be hard pressed to find 2 cars with a Jones cam in their engine and if you did, mostly likely it would be one of the 45 S/ST cars and it would not be running at the front of the class. His customer base is the Internet forum street/strip crowd and do it yourself low buck bracket racer.

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OLD HEADS.bASICALLY ORIGINAL HEMI IN BILLET WITH FEW UPGRADES.

Had chance at some JFR t.100 heads cheap,they found a pallet full they did not know they had.Must be ruff.

Have 14:1 compression,measured (78 cc's poured volume)not told.Thats after some massaging to get minimum clearances.
My system. Have 35 years playing with FI and cpl thousand in phone calls with Gorr back when we ran TA/FC and TA/D. While I will never say flowed is bad I don't need flowed system for MFI. Besides fact that with todays data logger you practically have a flow bench on car.
Pump flow is 6.85 gpm.aheads are not a problem. These have ran 4.70's injected in milder combo and slightly heavier car.


35 years of experience, and you are on ITA begging for help? 6.85 GPM is not even close to what you need. You are trying to build a copy of an A/fuel engine and you are way off. Don't take it personally.


How much hp do you figure he is shooting for?


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Please double your pump size or you will be to lean. Lean is not nice on these engines. I would shoot for 12-13 Gpm.
The A/fuel engines need rpm. It’s something the the old fuel engines don’t have. He said he was thinking of going 526/540. The pistons for those are just to massive. Need to stay 4.187 to lower rotating mass.
Not sure how he got down to 78cc from 175. It doesn’t make sense. You would have to take a massive amount of the heads.

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Holy fook.
Reading comprehension is a lost art around here, guys would rather bash than read.
He is not building a effin a/fuel engine.
It is a normally aspirated hemi made up from his old ta/fc stack of leftover parts, and it is on alcohol, and put in his homebuilt nostalgia style front motor digger for fooking around.

Damn, it has gotten to a point on this place where a person cant even post a legitimate question without the resident busybody douchebag and the band of merry turds screwin it up.
Effing disgusting.
 
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