584 Intake manifold

February 26, 2018, 11:30 AM

ML389D

584 Intake manifold

Typical 4 link dragster that I bracket race/ run super comp in. 584 tall deck that I just purchased new heads/camshaft for. I currently have an Edelbrock 2916 manifold sitting here. New heads are Brodix bb3xtra oval 365's, cam is a Reher Morrison 420-117. I've seen mixed reviews between going with the brodix 2017, the 2017-O, the sniper x, or the sv632. Looking for any real world experience or advice on what to go with.

February 26, 2018, 11:37 AM

TOP38

I would stick with what you have and try it. I am not a big fan of the brodix intakes and feel the sniper will be close to what you have. The SV632 is the best intake power wise assuming you have the motor that can use it. The cam your using should work with the SV632 also. Just not sure how much better it will be stop racing. Where do you plan on shifting the motor and what trap rpm? This would be the best way to determine if the SV632 would be a better choice

February 26, 2018, 11:43 AM

SCDIV1

I don't think they make a tall deck version of the SV-565 but it will make more power than the other intakes.

You can use tall deck spacers and just attach them to the intake and port match it. Very easy to do with no problem. Did it many years ago....

Use Cometic intake gaskets since they are bulletproof and make them in many different thicknesses.....

I have an SV-565 on my 565 and KNOW first hand it is better running S/C...Brodix 3x Ovals AS CAST with some port work done by me....and the port match work was very easy....just needed thicker gaskets...

A friend just had his engine redone at a well know pro builder and it is a 582 with injection and they swapped out his Brodix 2017 for the SV-565....and expect he will see an improvement.....

Exactly the same swap I made and made a substantial gain....with a gas carb.....

My car is 1975lbs and has run 8.90 at 176 with a plate and a gas carb....

February 26, 2018, 11:50 AM

ML389D

I'll be shifting it at 7400-7500

February 26, 2018, 11:52 AM

183N

quote:
Originally posted by SCDIV1:
I don't think they make a tall deck version of the SV-565 but it will make more power than the other intakes.

Rich, the SV-632 is the tall deck version of the SV-565.

February 26, 2018, 11:53 AM

Rymo

seen a few guys pick up mph switching from an older super victor to the SV565 with that combo. I just cant remember the part number off hand. if its worth $500 to you then that's what I would do.

February 26, 2018, 12:00 PM

SCDIV1

quote:
Originally posted by 183N:
quote:
Originally posted by SCDIV1:
I don't think they make a tall deck version of the SV-565 but it will make more power than the other intakes.

Rich, the SV-632 is the tall deck version of the SV-565.

Jamie I thought the 632 was bigger internally but you may be correct.....

If it is just the tall deck version of the same manifold than it's a no brainer.....

My engine had no other changes other than the intake swap and I run the same or even +1 MPH with a PLATE stop on std fuel than I did on Q-15 with an inline stop....and RPM is never much over 7400

February 26, 2018, 12:11 PM

TOP38

quote:
Originally posted by SCDIV1:
I don't think they make a tall deck version of the SV-565 but it will make more power than the other intakes.

You can use tall deck spacers and just attach them to the intake and port match it. Very easy to do with no problem. Did it many years ago....

Use Cometic intake gaskets since they are bulletproof and make them in many different thicknesses.....

I have an SV-565 on my 565 and KNOW first hand it is better running S/C...Brodix 3x Ovals AS CAST with some port work done by me....and the port match work was very easy....just needed thicker gaskets...

A friend just had his engine redone at a well know pro builder and it is a 582 with injection and they swapped out his Brodix 2017 for the SV-565....and expect he will see an improvement.....

Exactly the same swap I made and made a substantial gain....with a gas carb.....

My car is 1975lbs and has run 8.90 at 176 with a plate and a gas carb....

I have had both the 565 and 632 side by side and other than the tall vs short deck, no differences!

A few years ago a friend of mine went from the Super Vic to the SV565, from a Terminator on alky to a 1250 gas carb (APD) on a 582 RED. We also tweaked the cam. It ran a touch faster after the swap so the intake helped! Just the alky to gas swap has been a tenth slower with no other changes in my old 565 combo.

February 26, 2018, 12:13 PM

TOP38

quote:
Originally posted by ML389D:
I'll be shifting it at 7400-7500

Not a lot of rpm there! I would say you will need to turn it higher to get the most out of even that cam you have... If your after all the performance you can get then I'd sell the SV and get the 632 but you will need to get up in to the 7700 range get it all

February 26, 2018, 01:25 PM

S/S Dart

Cometic can sell you the Spacers for the tall deck conversion as well... very inexpensive and the can match the gasket perfectly... use two gaskets plus the spacer plate....1 on each side..

February 26, 2018, 01:58 PM

SCDIV1

Thanks Al for the confirmation on those 2 intakes.

I was pleasantly surprised when I swapped intakes.

I have never made a non t-stop run since I made that change.

I feel like the gas carb (1050) with the SV-565 would run as fast if not faster than the Terminator I ran.

In the past the Brodix intake and gas carb ran within .02 and about 1 mph slower than the Terminator....in similar air....

I did massage the Brodix and played with spacers.....

I like trying things.....

February 26, 2018, 04:59 PM

BIG SPEED

The SV 565 has a beginning runner area of 5.0 Square inches.The SV 632 has a beginning runner area of 5.38 SQ IN.Bill C.

February 26, 2018, 10:57 PM

TOP38

quote:
Originally posted by BIG SPEED:
The SV 565 has a beginning runner area of 5.0 Square inches.The SV 632 has a beginning runner area of 5.38 SQ IN.Bill C.

Did you read that in a book?

They are the same!

February 27, 2018, 04:57 PM

BIG SPEED

quote:
Originally posted by TOP38:
quote:
Originally posted by BIG SPEED:
The SV 565 has a beginning runner area of 5.0 Square inches.The SV 632 has a beginning runner area of 5.38 SQ IN.Bill C.

Did you read that in a book?
Right out of the Edelbrock catalogue
They are the same!