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So found another way to screw oneself. Installed larger fuel line from tank to pump on suggestion of respected fuel guy
Installed bigger aluminum line AND A 12an TO PUMP. My reasoning was should not matter since 8 in pump. His was some of his cutomers had gotten benifits. So figure can not hurt. WRONG! well if do not follow gut and install a inner spring it coulc suck the line shut and have you scratching your ass. Cost night of test and tune,but that why they have them.

After decent outting and just needing to correct few ,minor things I made what I thought was a improvement that bit me in butt.
Will keep informed of all new ways to f--- up.LAMO

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Your vent is too small or plugged.

Put your finger over the end of a straw and suck on it, and it will collapse, take your finger off and it will open back up.

Use at least a -8 K&N style vent filter. Make sure your roll over ball isn't stuck in your cell.


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Also, an MFI pump doesn't pull/suck well. That's why there is a very large line on the inlet so as not to restrict the inlet. -12+


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A spring inside is not a bad idea but in reality it should not collapse unless vent is clogged creating a lot of suction. Or the hose is extremely thin and wimpy.

"Also, MFI pump doesn't pull/suck well."

True and it is same with Electric pump, mount them as low as possible behind the tank so G-Forces and Gravity will help keep pump working good.


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Agree should not suck shut. Have seen big pumpos do it not thyese little things. Vents are open and two 1/2 id lines.

Think line is older piece, but normally harder line when old. Can take thumb and finger and squeeze together fairly easy and my old ass not got any hand strength anymore for ****.

Thought filter reloacation so pulled filter and used canister as over sized connector. No change.

Thought vent lines first thing since have burned pistons before in Funny when dirt dobber .lugged one up. Did get some fuel out after second run think dad had funnel over one of vent lines at cap . Did not change after clearing. Line is also only major change.

By passing spring and going hard tube elbow. Line haS TWO joints that will allow flex so should be fine. If not for nosie ass neighbor ding to call cops I would test damn thing in front of house. Everybody has race this weekend around here. Spending Few hundred to enter bracket race to see if **** fixed knowing car nor driver ready for serious comp.Now that all teh gadget **** disconnected like sle and two step it is back to old school stage it gag it and let it rip then slam in 2nd .After that add **** back on.

Ftern seeing Piedmont video of fun day Sunday slowed the butterfly easing open and finally open at 60' mark.SLE is gone. Hell grandma with walker could have out sixty the damn thing.




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Your vent is too small or plugged.

Put your finger over the end of a straw and suck on it, and it will collapse, take your finger off and it will open back up.

Use at least a -8 K&N style vent filter. Make sure your roll over ball isn't stuck in your cell.


No roller ball. Vent out top to below tank for one vet line.If upside down opening above tank and thought about upside dwon **** and decided against it anyway.LOL First off ***** got to run fast enough to get upside down and no blower or yellow liquid HP in tank. just alky drinking chicken **** injected 482 ci junk parts.Yea discussed understatement.

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So found another way to screw oneself. Installed larger fuel line from tank to pump on suggestion of respected fuel guy
Installed bigger aluminum line AND A 12an TO PUMP. My reasoning was should not matter since 8 in pump. His was some of his cutomers had gotten benifits. So figure can not hurt. WRONG! well if do not follow gut and install a inner spring it coulc suck the line shut and have you scratching your ass. Cost night of test and tune,but that why they have them.

After decent outting and just needing to correct few ,minor things I made what I thought was a improvement that bit me in butt.
Will keep informed of all new ways to f--- up.LAMO

And I was right.
If nothing else you are learning all the things not to do like flimsy hose. I am curious as to why your SLE isn't working as expected/normal.


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Dave

ot sure at first I noticed it not openiong due to second spring on BV side of hat, I have always had one on each side. With Nuropathy I like extra strong spring anyway and since foot has very little to no feeling. I can feel movement muscle wise just takes good amount resistance.
Now why it was not open online when activated and eased into it after hit? Beats hell out of me. with data logger not reset(my f---uP) I did not know till caught video on you tube. Felt better aboput other stuff. Felt like high gear leave to be honest.

You tube piedmont dragways Funday Sunday 1 month ago. About 20 seconds in can see fly barely open and then ease open clear as day.

One thought it was used when bought maybe something there. It is not in cable as in drag checked.Masybe something in air part of it. 750 psi on bottle so not that.

Now have weaker spring at hat,strong on pedal. Hell use to stage it hit throttle and load converter and hit bottom bulb. Not best for cponverter but hell has life time warranty(just kidding FTI).

Will old school it for while. Hell driver noit worth **** routine wise and adding new **** just screws his old ass up more.




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So found another way to screw oneself. Installed larger fuel line from tank to pump on suggestion of respected fuel guy
Installed bigger aluminum line AND A 12an TO PUMP. My reasoning was should not matter since 8 in pump. His was some of his cutomers had gotten benifits. So figure can not hurt. WRONG! well if do not follow gut and install a inner spring it coulc suck the line shut and have you scratching your ass. Cost night of test and tune,but that why they have them.

After decent outting and just needing to correct few ,minor things I made what I thought was a improvement that bit me in butt.
Will keep informed of all new ways to f--- up.LAMO

And I was right.
If nothing else you are learning all the things not to do like flimsy hose. I am curious as to why your SLE isn't working as expected/normal.


Orignal post had comment about exicution being problem not suggestion,but got removed when corrected a crossup in post.




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If you feel that spring pressure is causing the sle not to work right, reduce the spring pressure and add a spring under your throttle pedal. I do the pedal spring thing to get a proper feel myself.


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As stated in one of above post that is what I did. I had to get two half ass springs for hat one each side. Then put real spring on pedal.

Not sure that is reason for slow opening BS. Not openiong or stopping at point yes.

I do know with sle action out it works fine. So that is what i am doing for while. Running out of time before too damn hot to go out in 5 layer suit. Come 90* days I am done.




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Right now all bells and whistles are off. Fuel line solid except two flex connections. Hell if delay box not back in next week I will be transbrake button and foot.




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Also, an MFI pump doesn't pull/suck well. That's why there is a very large line on the inlet so as not to restrict the inlet. -12+


That depends on the pump


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