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Bracket Talk Bracket Talk Forum Tech Talk - by Abruzzi feedback about short vs longer wheelbaseGo | New | Find | Notify | Tools | Reply | |
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Racers, When I built the original Super 10 it was a standard cab, short bed, 108" wheelbase. It worked will and I enjoyed the truck. I am considering building another, the thing is the 108" short trucks are becoming had to find in a clean, straight core. [note, the Super 10 was, at times, a bumper dragger] The extended cabs are easier to find in good condition, they are 122" wheelbase. So, my question, how would the 122" wheelbase work? Would it be a consistent runner, a capable winner? [of course, would be less prone to wheel stand, but it that a good thing?] And I am planning this to be my personal bracket racer with either a small block or LS engine, maybe an aluminum block LS3 package. The power will be 650 - 700 range. Let me hear y'all feedback about short vs long wheelbase. Larry Woodfin | ||
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I see no reason why that would not work, especially with an all AL LS motor! If you change the front end to struts, you need travel! In a tube chassis S-10 w/a BBC, it definitely benefits from an AL block even with the motor moved back. | |||
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Gary Williams races an extended cab s-10 but it has a BBC running 5.6x+, and it ain’t light! Look at Big Steves prostock extended cab s-10…..BBC If going extended cab I’d chose BBC | |||
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My steel cab and steel bed PST S10 is 125 inch WB, actually 127 with 2 inch stagger. Before I bought it we weighed it with a 582 12* motor with 2 kits, dry sump and 2 12V batteries in back and it weighed 2280 lbs. My 565 going in is conventional head, no nitrous, no dry sump and will have 1 16v battery in back. I am thinking it should be around 2200lbs | |||
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What is the weight distribution front to rear? https://postimg.cc/gallery/np3zpruo/ "Dunning-Kruger Effect" -a type of Cognitive bias where people with little expertise or ability assume they have superior expertise or ability. This overestimation occurs as a result of the fact that they do not have enough knowledge to know they don't have enough knowledge. Before you argue with someone ask yourself, "Is this person mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of a different perspective?" If not there is no point to argue. 4X NE2 CHAMPION. 2020 TDRA NE2 Champion | |||
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Dont know yet, before its on the track I will scale it and plot and set the 4 link. Right now the engine isnt in it. | |||
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Steve, tell me about the driveshaft. Length and material. Larry Woodfin | |||
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I have a set of scales if you need to borrow them. https://postimg.cc/gallery/np3zpruo/ "Dunning-Kruger Effect" -a type of Cognitive bias where people with little expertise or ability assume they have superior expertise or ability. This overestimation occurs as a result of the fact that they do not have enough knowledge to know they don't have enough knowledge. Before you argue with someone ask yourself, "Is this person mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of a different perspective?" If not there is no point to argue. 4X NE2 CHAMPION. 2020 TDRA NE2 Champion | |||
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Larry, you have a funny way of retiring from racing.  I hope you have fun with the new projects though. How is the Vette coming?____________________________ 2017 and 2018 Osage Casinos Tulsa Raceway Park No-Box Champion 2018 Div4 Goodguys Hammer award winner | |||
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Curtis, the people who know me well also think I am funny, in fact, I am a good standup comic. But they all love me including my faults. When I said I was retiring, I meant it at the time, but the truth always come to the surface. After a period of reflection, there is nothing in my life since teenage years that gives me any more pleasure than building and driving drag race cars. More about this soon. And about the Vette, I have a self-imposed date to have it on track in late May.This message has been edited. Last edited by: Larry Woodfin, Larry Woodfin | |||
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Steve, I still am curious about the driveshaft. Length, diameter, material. Larry Woodfin | |||
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Larry the driveshaft that came with the truck is steel. I am on the road today so I cant measure it but its long, i will measure it and let you know | |||
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WSith mild HP range OP stated I doubt getting out of shape mid track big issue. A longer wheelbase is more stable. A few inches back on motor has a big change. Simple scales and mount 200 bl then move back 4" see what scales say and multiply that percentage by whatever the number is for 200 and engine and transmission. With battery(s) and fuel cell in rear you already have a good amount moved. Move driver back some and probably huge change. Sry Larry could not resist. LOL If doing S10 I would go extended cab and maz wheelbase out.JMO America home of free. Brought to you by 2nd amendment. | |||
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I put the radiator in the bed of mine, with the motor in the stock location. Worth a 1.4% CG shift to the rear. Dead hooks everywhere. My vote is for short wheelbase though. Still plenty out there. Mike Allred | |||
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I drove a friends tube chassis TS S10 extended cab. It had a MW aluminum shaft in it. It was built in 99 and still had the original DS in it | |||
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