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I have a 2004 diesel pusher motorhome on a Freightliner XC chassis with a 300hp 5.9 Cummins ISB. I know they are not exactly towing powerhouses but I would like to do a tune to pick up a few more HP for towing. The motor is the same as the 5.9 in the Dodge trucks but the turbo & electronic controls are different so it's not that simple... any of you guys spark one of these up a little bit and have a tuner you can recommend that you are happy with the results? Pros / cons? Thanks in advance...


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Hey Billy. The guy I bought mine from had put a tuner on it and on his first trip it put the transmission in a "Limp Mode" because of the increased torque. He took it off and I would still get a check trans light on every once in a while. They claim you could get a program that tells the trans it is still stock and will work with a tuner. I just bought a new coach with an ISL 8.9 and never looked back lol.
 
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Hey Billy. The guy I bought mine from had put a tuner on it and on his first trip it put the transmission in a "Limp Mode" because of the increased torque. He took it off and I would still get a check trans light on every once in a while. They claim you could get a program that tells the trans it is still stock and will work with a tuner. I just bought a new coach with an ISL 8.9 and never looked back lol.


Yeah, that is exactly the kind of horror story I'm trying to avoid! I'm just looking for a mild tune but something reputable.


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I had a Bully Dog tuner puck on my 5.9 pickup. It had 3 levels. 1st level was fine and I had it on for about 4 years. I tried level 3 once and it was crazy how much power it added. My biggest fear was the transmission failing.
 
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I have a 2000 Beaver motor home with a 300 hp Cat and was hoping to find more HP to help in the towing and looked into tuners and what it would take for a few more horses and found out that it would cause a possible over heating problem and maybe trans. problems. I found out that on the older engines like ours need a much higher Cetane (like octane) rating to operate more efficiently. In the Cat manuals it noted a Cetane rating of 48 or higher. The ratings now are 38 to 40 at all stations. I've asked at some of the stations and they answer "What is Cetane" lol. I use a cetane booster DieselKleen by Power Services silver bottle. This is not a snake oil ad for their product it really really helped in the performance. Up hills much better, cruising at 1650 rpm with less pedal. I also use top tier sources like Chevron or Shell. My 2cents
 
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Out of curiosity I googled 2004 Cummins 5.9 300 hp engine cetane spec needed. 40 minimum 45+ or better recommended. If your just filling up at the cheaper outlet stations you may be getting a rating of even lower than 39. Believe me it makes a huge difference to boost it.
 
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I have a 2004 diesel pusher motorhome on a Freightliner XC chassis with a 300hp 5.9 Cummins ISB. I know they are not exactly towing powerhouses but I would like to do a tune to pick up a few more HP for towing. The motor is the same as the 5.9 in the Dodge trucks but the turbo & electronic controls are different so it's not that simple... any of you guys spark one of these up a little bit and have a tuner you can recommend that you are happy with the results? Pros / cons? Thanks in advance...


Billy, what trans is in it? If it's an MH3000 your good to go, the others may not be strong enough.
 
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I have a 2000 Beaver motor home with a 300 hp Cat and was hoping to find more HP to help in the towing and looked into tuners and what it would take for a few more horses and found out that it would cause a possible over heating problem and maybe trans. problems. I found out that on the older engines like ours need a much higher Cetane (like octane) rating to operate more efficiently. In the Cat manuals it noted a Cetane rating of 48 or higher. The ratings now are 38 to 40 at all stations. I've asked at some of the stations and they answer "What is Cetane" lol. I use a cetane booster DieselKleen by Power Services silver bottle. This is not a snake oil ad for their product it really really helped in the performance. Up hills much better, cruising at 1650 rpm with less pedal. I also use top tier sources like Chevron or Shell. My 2cents


I know a few CAT guys picked up power and fuel mileage changing the stock muffler!
 
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It's the 2000 series trans.
I replaced the exhaust with a low-restriction muffler when one of the pipes rotted through but you could look right through the old muffler and I didn't notice any difference with the new one....


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Originally posted by 50fordsst:
I have a 2000 Beaver motor home with a 300 hp Cat and was hoping to find more HP to help in the towing and looked into tuners and what it would take for a few more horses and found out that it would cause a possible over heating problem and maybe trans. problems. I found out that on the older engines like ours need a much higher Cetane (like octane) rating to operate more efficiently. In the Cat manuals it noted a Cetane rating of 48 or higher. The ratings now are 38 to 40 at all stations. I've asked at some of the stations and they answer "What is Cetane" lol. I use a cetane booster DieselKleen by Power Services silver bottle. This is not a snake oil ad for their product it really really helped in the performance. Up hills much better, cruising at 1650 rpm with less pedal. I also use top tier sources like Chevron or Shell. My 2cents


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Originally posted by 50fordsst:
Out of curiosity I googled 2004 Cummins 5.9 300 hp engine cetane spec needed. 40 minimum 45+ or better recommended. If your just filling up at the cheaper outlet stations you may be getting a rating of even lower than 39. Believe me it makes a huge difference to boost it.


Is there any modification needed to the tune, in order for the engine to adjust to a higher Cetane rating, and take advantage of it by producing higher power? (And how does it do that, with more boost?). I know most modern gasoline vehicles will adjust to higher octane fuel and improve performance by increasing the timing to the point of knock sensor detection, then back it off as needed to avoid issues. Just wondering "if" and "how" a diesel would do the same thing.


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I use the word boost meaning to use a cetane additive to the fuel. Your engine requirement is 45+ or higher recommended. No there is no modification needed at all. You are not using a high enough cetane rated fuel for your older engine. It sure worked for me. Make sure you change your fuel filters at least once a year and air filter.
 
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It's the 2000 series trans.
I replaced the exhaust with a low-restriction muffler when one of the pipes rotted through but you could look right through the old muffler and I didn't notice any difference with the new one....

Does it have an exhaust brake?
 
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