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Battery Cable Termination

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April 10, 2018, 09:45 AM
Bucky
Battery Cable Termination
Anyone do any voltage drop testing with the different ways to terminate battery cable? I have been using the ones that screw down and clamp solidly around the entire cable. But not sure if solder and mechanical clamping is better. We bought some XS cable from summit for work, and that seems very nice. Very high thread count and very flexible. I typically use bulk welding cable 1/0. But the selection of terminations is a little less with the large gauge.


Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
April 10, 2018, 10:25 AM
369dragster
https://www.amazon.com/TMS-Cri...+cable+crimping+tool

I use one of these and then solder and shrink wrap. I haven't done any testing between connections. That being said on a race car I would never use a screw on connector.


Ken
April 10, 2018, 10:37 AM
XPS fan
Sorry to answer your question with another question but ... I like the XS cable but have trouble finding terminals that are small neat and fit properly. Only ones I've found that fit decent are their brand and I'm not really impressed with the quality. I crimp and shrink tube.



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April 10, 2018, 11:04 AM
Bucky
These are what I have been using.(style wise)
https://www.summitracing.com/p.../mor-74170/overview/
Never had one loosen, and I don't think they would. But I also don't know if without solder, they conduct as well.


Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
April 10, 2018, 11:09 AM
XPS fan
My bad ..... I was referring to "crimp on" style.



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April 10, 2018, 11:30 AM
Bucky
quote:
Originally posted by XPS fan:
My bad ..... I was referring to "crimp on" style.



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I couldn't think of a good way to describe them.


Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
April 10, 2018, 11:46 AM
Canted Valve
Why not solder the ends, which is to say basically tinning the multi-stranded ends, providing a solid base, then use the terminal of your choice, win/win. At that point it's easy to solder the terminal to the wire if that's you preference. Wrap the insulation with a wet rag to minimize damage then apply dielectric to inhibit corrosion and shrink wrap.


Illegitimi non carborundum
April 10, 2018, 12:03 PM
Crisco
quote:
Originally posted by XPS fan:
Sorry to answer your question with another question but ... I like the XS cable but have trouble finding terminals that are small neat and fit properly. Only ones I've found that fit decent are their brand and I'm not really impressed with the quality. I crimp and shrink tube.



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I use these. https://www.quickcar.com/57-550-Battery-Terminal/

I use their cable also. It is very nice.

https://www.quickcar.com/57-101-Battery-Cable/


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April 10, 2018, 12:17 PM
Big Steve
quote:
Originally posted by 369dragster:
https://www.amazon.com/TMS-Cri...+cable+crimping+tool

I use one of these and then solder and shrink wrap. I haven't done any testing between connections. That being said on a race car I would never use a screw on connector.


I have this crimper set and it works awesome!! also soldered after then heat shrinked. Very solid connection
April 10, 2018, 04:04 PM
Mike Beck
I get my stuff from McMaster-Carr. Probably pay more than I should, but I get it the same day. They have any size you can want. I usually use 1/0 most of the time. Welding cable, extremely flexible. Crimp-on ends that I bought a cool crimper from them. Put the end in it and smash it with a hammer. Perfect crimp everytime! Then it gets heat shrink.

Not too sure about those Moroso ends. Have seen them on stereo equipment. I would rather use my smash-a-crimper (LOL) and heat shrink!

https://www.mcmaster.com/#batt...al-crimpers/=1ccu8ra
April 11, 2018, 06:28 AM
Bad News
Be careful when soldering, solder will wick up the cable and make a rather large chunk of resistance. Use tinned marine cable from any of the marine manufacturers, ancor, pacer, allied etc. They all have the appropriate crimp ends for the size cable. And tinned cable is forever, no corrosion to worry about.
April 11, 2018, 08:19 PM
Hotrod Corvette
These are the best terminals I have ever used hands down.
https://www.delcity.net/store/...gs/p_807161.h_807164

https://www.delcity.net/store/...y-Terminals/p_804068

Watch the video
https://youtu.be/YIe-2vUwXqw


Burt

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April 12, 2018, 05:29 AM
Bucky
quote:
Originally posted by Hotrod Corvette:
These are the best terminals I have ever used hands down.
https://www.delcity.net/store/...gs/p_807161.h_807164

https://www.delcity.net/store/...y-Terminals/p_804068

Watch the video
https://youtu.be/YIe-2vUwXqw


Am I reading correct though that there is no physical joining other than the solder?


Foxtrot Juliet Bravo
April 12, 2018, 06:26 AM
CURTIS REED
quote:
Originally posted by Bucky:
quote:
Originally posted by Hotrod Corvette:
These are the best terminals I have ever used hands down.
https://www.delcity.net/store/...gs/p_807161.h_807164

https://www.delcity.net/store/...y-Terminals/p_804068

Watch the video
https://youtu.be/YIe-2vUwXqw


Am I reading correct though that there is no physical joining other than the solder?


That is correct. I have used these also. Very nice parts.



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April 12, 2018, 07:03 AM
Brktracer
Terminals

and

Solder slugs

I've used these several times and they work great. No special crimper required.


Matt Ward



April 12, 2018, 04:12 PM
imakehp
quote:
Originally posted by Hotrod Corvette:
These are the best terminals I have ever used hands down.
https://www.delcity.net/store/...gs/p_807161.h_807164

https://www.delcity.net/store/...y-Terminals/p_804068

Watch the video
https://youtu.be/YIe-2vUwXqw


WOW, I like those pre-soldered terminals!
Have you ever seen the smaller gauge wire terminals pre-soldered like that?


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Dave



F J B

April 15, 2018, 10:40 PM
Joe Burkleo
Tinned Marine wire and terminals all the way.
Crimped and shrink wrap with the double wall shrink tube. Can solder but be careful not to wick solder back up the cable making it brittle.

Kester #331 63/37 organic core solder leaves very little residue in comparison to normal flux core solder.

I have found these to both be decent quality crimp tools that have lasted well.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/10-To...4:g:b~4AAOSwk5FUtXgQ


https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-25-...c:g:UdMAAOSw1VJZv-oR
April 16, 2018, 07:45 PM
rusty
crimp ,solder is very likley to vibrate and loose connection.ask me how i know


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1.036, 6.16@ 224

April 17, 2018, 10:14 AM
Ron Gusack
I used the del city solder slugs and one came loose. I started having some weirdness and discovered it by pulling the terminal off the cable.
April 17, 2018, 10:19 AM
Mike Beck
Solder tends to wick up the cable and makes the last inch or two a brick, no more flexibility.

I like the cruncher I use. Not as pretty as the real tool the lineman use on the poles, but once you put heat shrink on it you don't see it and it will never come loose!