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Anyone do any voltage drop testing with the different ways to terminate battery cable? I have been using the ones that screw down and clamp solidly around the entire cable. But not sure if solder and mechanical clamping is better. We bought some XS cable from summit for work, and that seems very nice. Very high thread count and very flexible. I typically use bulk welding cable 1/0. But the selection of terminations is a little less with the large gauge.


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https://www.amazon.com/TMS-Cri...+cable+crimping+tool

I use one of these and then solder and shrink wrap. I haven't done any testing between connections. That being said on a race car I would never use a screw on connector.


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Sorry to answer your question with another question but ... I like the XS cable but have trouble finding terminals that are small neat and fit properly. Only ones I've found that fit decent are their brand and I'm not really impressed with the quality. I crimp and shrink tube.



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These are what I have been using.(style wise)
https://www.summitracing.com/p.../mor-74170/overview/
Never had one loosen, and I don't think they would. But I also don't know if without solder, they conduct as well.


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My bad ..... I was referring to "crimp on" style.



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My bad ..... I was referring to "crimp on" style.



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I couldn't think of a good way to describe them.


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Why not solder the ends, which is to say basically tinning the multi-stranded ends, providing a solid base, then use the terminal of your choice, win/win. At that point it's easy to solder the terminal to the wire if that's you preference. Wrap the insulation with a wet rag to minimize damage then apply dielectric to inhibit corrosion and shrink wrap.


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Originally posted by XPS fan:
Sorry to answer your question with another question but ... I like the XS cable but have trouble finding terminals that are small neat and fit properly. Only ones I've found that fit decent are their brand and I'm not really impressed with the quality. I crimp and shrink tube.



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I use these. https://www.quickcar.com/57-550-Battery-Terminal/

I use their cable also. It is very nice.

https://www.quickcar.com/57-101-Battery-Cable/
 
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Originally posted by 369dragster:
https://www.amazon.com/TMS-Cri...+cable+crimping+tool

I use one of these and then solder and shrink wrap. I haven't done any testing between connections. That being said on a race car I would never use a screw on connector.


I have this crimper set and it works awesome!! also soldered after then heat shrinked. Very solid connection
 
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I get my stuff from McMaster-Carr. Probably pay more than I should, but I get it the same day. They have any size you can want. I usually use 1/0 most of the time. Welding cable, extremely flexible. Crimp-on ends that I bought a cool crimper from them. Put the end in it and smash it with a hammer. Perfect crimp everytime! Then it gets heat shrink.

Not too sure about those Moroso ends. Have seen them on stereo equipment. I would rather use my smash-a-crimper (LOL) and heat shrink!

https://www.mcmaster.com/#batt...al-crimpers/=1ccu8ra
 
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Be careful when soldering, solder will wick up the cable and make a rather large chunk of resistance. Use tinned marine cable from any of the marine manufacturers, ancor, pacer, allied etc. They all have the appropriate crimp ends for the size cable. And tinned cable is forever, no corrosion to worry about.
 
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These are the best terminals I have ever used hands down.
https://www.delcity.net/store/...gs/p_807161.h_807164

https://www.delcity.net/store/...y-Terminals/p_804068

Watch the video
https://youtu.be/YIe-2vUwXqw


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Originally posted by Hotrod Corvette:
These are the best terminals I have ever used hands down.
https://www.delcity.net/store/...gs/p_807161.h_807164

https://www.delcity.net/store/...y-Terminals/p_804068

Watch the video
https://youtu.be/YIe-2vUwXqw


Am I reading correct though that there is no physical joining other than the solder?


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Originally posted by Hotrod Corvette:
These are the best terminals I have ever used hands down.
https://www.delcity.net/store/...gs/p_807161.h_807164

https://www.delcity.net/store/...y-Terminals/p_804068

Watch the video
https://youtu.be/YIe-2vUwXqw


Am I reading correct though that there is no physical joining other than the solder?


That is correct. I have used these also. Very nice parts.



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Terminals

and

Solder slugs

I've used these several times and they work great. No special crimper required.


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Originally posted by Hotrod Corvette:
These are the best terminals I have ever used hands down.
https://www.delcity.net/store/...gs/p_807161.h_807164

https://www.delcity.net/store/...y-Terminals/p_804068

Watch the video
https://youtu.be/YIe-2vUwXqw


WOW, I like those pre-soldered terminals!
Have you ever seen the smaller gauge wire terminals pre-soldered like that?


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Tinned Marine wire and terminals all the way.
Crimped and shrink wrap with the double wall shrink tube. Can solder but be careful not to wick solder back up the cable making it brittle.

Kester #331 63/37 organic core solder leaves very little residue in comparison to normal flux core solder.

I have found these to both be decent quality crimp tools that have lasted well.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/10-To...4:g:b~4AAOSwk5FUtXgQ


https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-25-...c:g:UdMAAOSw1VJZv-oR
 
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crimp ,solder is very likley to vibrate and loose connection.ask me how i know


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I used the del city solder slugs and one came loose. I started having some weirdness and discovered it by pulling the terminal off the cable.
 
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Solder tends to wick up the cable and makes the last inch or two a brick, no more flexibility.

I like the cruncher I use. Not as pretty as the real tool the lineman use on the poles, but once you put heat shrink on it you don't see it and it will never come loose!
 
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