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Currently have a 250 blower, Big Bubbas with 1.80 1st gear. I wanted to see what people are running for gear running in the ET 4.30s and 4.40s. I tried a 3.90 gear this year and my car did not like it, been breaking transmissions.

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Posts: 3257 | Location: Michigan | Registered: November 14, 2001Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I had a 3.90 rear gear and a 1.69 low little and big bubbas in mine. Consistent 4.40 car and never brake the transmission.

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Put an ATI 1.64 first gear in it, pick your favorite rear gear, and roll with it.

My son has 4.11 in his car, but going from 1.80 to 1.64 first gear made a noticeable difference when we made the swap. Conversely when we swapped between 3.70, 4.11, 4.30 we never saw any real difference at the starting line. We did see different RPM at the stripe and more lug on the motor at the gear shift.

Final drive ratio with 1.80/4.30 is 7.74 and with 1.64/4.11 is 6.74. You can get the same with the rear gear selection, but it did not seem to change the cars attitude on the starting line with rear gear changes only. The second issue is how hard it lugs at the gear shift with 1.80 and 3.89/3.70 rear gear as well as Trap RPM was lower by 300 rpm vs. 4.30. We settled in on 4.11

My son's car did break a 1.69 (Trans Specialties) before getting the 1.64 from ATI. I wouldn't waste my time with the 1.69, ATI says they are all foreign made, his 1.69 didn't last a year. 2 years now on the 1.64 and no issues. When we made the change from 1.80 to 1.6X, we had to increase launch RPM just to get it to hit the tire hard enough to plant it. Numerically lower first gear ratio seemed to have more impact on how hard the tire gets hit than did the rear end gear selection listed above. With 1.64 the car seems to run through the 1/2 shift much cleaner and rarely lugs. Trap RPM is closer to what we wanted to see at 6900-7100.

598/250 blower/MFI/2150 lbs, best 4.32 163, consistent mid to high 4.40s 158 (this summer), south louisiana.
 
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My car lost .05 going from 4.11 to 3.90 same pulley. Never really thought about changing first gear. A few of my friends run same ET none blower but 4.30 rear gear. The reason behind the 3.90 for me was I was trying to keep from going sub 1.00 60fts. Some tracks around here arent great about the starting line and was trying not to rely so much on the starting line. With the 3.90 im 1.04ish plus or minus some. I am really after consistency and reliability more then et


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Bob,

A numerically lower 1st gear will help IMO, it will take some getting use to but, should work out in the long run.
 
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3.90 w/1.64 low gear. Big Shaft trans. 4.0 in 1/8th.


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Bob, What is breaking in your transmissions?
 
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Originally posted by Bob Payton:
Currently have a 250 blower, Big Bubbas with 1.80 1st gear. I wanted to see what people are running for gear running in the ET 4.30s and 4.40s. I tried a 3.90 gear this year and my car did not like it, been breaking transmissions.


We are 4.10s & 1.80 in the trans with big bubbas. Only like 71/7200 in the 1/8, 7700 in the 1/4 at 191. 64/35 pulley.

If we ran 1/8 only I’d probably put 4.30s in it and control the starting line with the grid.
 
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