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I recently picked up a Fowler, to backup a Mitutoyo I've had twenty plus years.

It'll be good to have two fairly high quality dial bore gauges around here, for obsessive compulsive double and triple checking. Smile

 
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Neither of those are high quality. Under two hundred dollar with no settings tool. Those don’t impress me.
You want a quality DBG, get a sunnen with the setting tool. I bought mine in 1977 and it’s spot on today.
 
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Neither of those are high quality. Under two hundred dollar with no settings tool. Those don’t impress me.
You want a quality DBG, get a sunnen with the setting tool. I bought mine in 1977 and it’s spot on today.


Fast forward to around 4:10, watch closely. Then, do tell why I should be impressed.

Trust me I'm plenty experienced to catch a standard off the crankshaft or piston. I got a good feel for it, touch.


 
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Being in the machine tool business I have used a lot of different gauge. Mitutoyo has a cheaper end and more expensive stuff. They are pretty good gauges but the more expensive ones seem to be a better and more accurate. I like starrett can be a little pricey. I have used the fowler too. They don't seem like a bad gauge.
 
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Being in the machine tool business I have used a lot of different gauge. Mitutoyo has a cheaper end and more expensive stuff. They are pretty good gauges but the more expensive ones seem to be a better and more accurate. I like starrett can be a little pricey. I have used the fowler too. They don't seem like a bad gauge.


I may buy a Starret, what price range are you speaking? Starret has a dial bore gauge in the $200 range as well.

I bought a Starret dial caliper from a calibration lab twenty five years ago, have always been impressed by it. I was using it too much on rudimentary measurements, so I bought a Fowler in order to preserve the Starret caliper.
 
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Being in the machine tool business I have used a lot of different gauge. Mitutoyo has a cheaper end and more expensive stuff. They are pretty good gauges but the more expensive ones seem to be a better and more accurate. I like starrett can be a little pricey. I have used the fowler too. They don't seem like a bad gauge.


I may buy a Starret, what price range are you speaking? Starret has a dial bore gauge in the $200 range as well.

I bought a Starret dial caliper from a calibration lab twenty five years ago, have always been impressed by it. I was using it too much on rudimentary measurements, so I bought a Fowler in order to preserve the Starret caliper.

The ones we use at work are around 300 to 400. But it really just depends on the tolerance you want to hold with them.
 
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Neither of those are high quality. Under two hundred dollar with no settings tool. Those don’t impress me.
You want a quality DBG, get a sunnen with the setting tool. I bought mine in 1977 and it’s spot on today.


I doubt that Mike is doing anything that would require Aerospace tolerances. I know of a lot of garage built engines that work just fine using plastigauge. Most machinists and their machines aren't good enough to hold the capability of their measuring tools.



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Neither of those are high quality. Under two hundred dollar with no settings tool. Those don’t impress me.
You want a quality DBG, get a sunnen with the setting tool. I bought mine in 1977 and it’s spot on today.


I doubt that Mike is doing anything that would require Aerospace tolerances. I know of a lot of garage built engines that work just fine using plastigauge. Most machinists and their machines aren't good enough to hold the capability of their measuring tools.


Grown up toys, I bought another torque converter instead of the $300-$400 Starret DBG the man has mentioned.

I'll get one eventually, I had a friend that worked in the calibration lab at the AFB in Vegas, he too always suggested Starret.

I might pull the trigger, just to compare all three.

Pretty nice Smile

 
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I’m not building engines now, so my Mitutoyo 0.7-1.4” .0005 dial 511 series bore gauge is for sale. It’s 100% complete with case and manual It’s the best way to verify lifter bore or balancer clearances.



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If you want to read about dial bore gauges go here. http://www.longislandindicator.com/p8.html


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I agree since Mike is not doing any machine work.

I doubt that Mike is doing anything that would require Aerospace tolerances. I know of a lot of garage built engines that work just fine using plastigauge. Most machinists and their machines aren't good enough to hold the capability of their measuring tools.
 
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Starret makes good tools and I own a few. But I don't use their BDG's
I have been to the old Starret plant in Athol Massachusetts in the 90's. It was located in an old mill building. Very interesting.
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I have the Fowler. While it's definitely not a high end gauge, it does the job for what I need it for. It's been pretty danged accurate so far, and repeatable. I know there are better ones out there, and I've looked at a few, but I don't use them enough to warrant the extra cost.....


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Fowler, Mitutoyo and Starret are fairly high quality gages.

Are there higher quality out there? Sure.

It's gonna be good, as I said before, to have two around here for obsessive compulsive double and triple checks.

It don't matter how long it takes for off the trailer strong.


 
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Fowler = Garbage. May be ok to use if you are a commie hammering 2 x 4's together in chinka. You know, if you wanted to support your fellow dog eating commies you share a shyt hole country with.

Mitutoyo = Great if your objective is to send a fighter plane to the bottom of the pacific. While modern day japs do happen to make some good chit, it aint mitutoyo. Not to mention they make the ugliest junk on the market.

Starrett = Undefeated in world wars. Obviously the greatest toolmakers on the planet with a few exceptions. One of those is their bore gauges. Theyre fine for using on a mill or general crap that needs to be closer than scaled. Not nice enough to keep in the Gerstner but better than throwing in drawer of wrenches. Nothing to brag about owning as everybody has at least a half dozen of em laying around always in the way.
 
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Standard bore gages purchased by Brown&Sharpe
Now owned by someone else.
Not to much better out there unless it’s an air gage.
 
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Fowler = Garbage. May be ok to use if you are a commie hammering 2 x 4's together in chinka. You know, if you wanted to support your fellow dog eating commies you share a shyt hole country with.

Mitutoyo = Great if your objective is to send a fighter plane to the bottom of the pacific. While modern day japs do happen to make some good chit, it aint mitutoyo. Not to mention they make the ugliest junk on the market.

Starrett = Undefeated in world wars. Obviously the greatest toolmakers on the planet with a few exceptions. One of those is their bore gauges. Theyre fine for using on a mill or general crap that needs to be closer than scaled. Not nice enough to keep in the Gerstner but better than throwing in drawer of wrenches. Nothing to brag about owning as everybody has at least a half dozen of em laying around always in the way.


That's true, the Japs or china. The Japs are probably our best allies though, most don't know that for the most part, but they are. Plus they're work force are paid decent, they're western civilization, so they're not pressuring our work forces wages like the chinese and mexicans, one reason they let mexicans waltz across the border, to manage inflation.

I thought Fowler was Made in USA, bummer I'll post the Starret when it gets here.


 
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I’ve been involved with metrology for 44 years and it’s my opinion that a majority of the DIY types are better off with plasti-gauge than precision bore reading instruments. I do it daily and still double check myself, if not triple. Starrett and Sunnen are my choices.
 
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Your new Starret bore gauge is made in China. LOL
I have a spare Sunnen DBG and Sunnen setting tool for sale. $1650.00 for both in original wooden boxes. Cal date on both are from Feb. this year Made in the USA. Good tools don't loose their value.
As long as a certain percentage of the components are made in the USA they can claim Made in the USA.

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