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| FastRacer, It has been my experience that sealer on the trans pan gasket is a bad idea. I suggest a Felpro race gasket installed dry.
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| Shouldn't need anything more than a dry gasket. That being said I have a tube of permatex automatic transmission sealer that I grabbed a while back because it was intriguing.
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| We also prefer and employ Farpak gaskets on all our transmissions. FTI Performance Competition Converters and Racing Transmissions "Some call it cheating, we call it the competitive edge." www.FTIPerformance.cominfo@ftiperformance.com  |
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| Check flatness of pan, good gasket installed dry. Then look really good at shift shaft, dipstick tube and where the detent cable goes in or the plug where it went in. Those are as likely to leak as the pan and run around the pan rail so it looks like the pan is leaking. Also check where the full mark is while you have the pan off, aftermarket sticks aren't known for accuracy. |
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| ^^^ What he said. I've had issues in the past where the shift shaft seal leaks. I have since doubled up/stacking them putting two in where I can. Sometimes only one will fit. Dave
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| make sure oil is not running down from above the pan rail
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| quote: Originally posted by Eman:
Check flatness of pan, good gasket installed dry. Then look really good at shift shaft, dipstick tube and where the detent cable goes in or the plug where it went in. Those are as likely to leak as the pan and run around the pan rail so it looks like the pan is leaking. Also check where the full mark is while you have the pan off, aftermarket sticks aren't known for accuracy.
Eman, are there seals, gaskets or O-rings at those leak points you described? Thanks! |
| | | Posts: 342 | Location: Sioux Falls, SD | Registered: March 17, 2018 |
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| Dipstick tube can be either an O-ring or a hat type seal depending on the tube. T350 shift shaft has a seal that is pressed into the trans housing. If you have a leak there the best bet is drop the pan and remove the shaft, has a clip and a nut on it. Then polish the shaft, chuck it in a drill and use fine emery or sandpaper and polish it clean. Then install a new seal and the clean polished shaft. Detent cable can have an 0-ring or a small boot type seal depending onm the cable. If the trans isn't using the detent remove it and tap the hole and put a pipe plug in it or band a oil gallery plug in. |
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| I do not use the old stamped pans on anything now. Not on the transmission, oil pan, timing cover or valve covers. An aluminum pan will seal better and those Farpak gaskets really do seal good. You install them dry and when they get hot they have a heat activated sealant that really sticks and seals. https://postimg.cc/gallery/np3zpruo/"Dunning-Kruger Effect" -a type of Cognitive bias where people with little expertise or ability assume they have superior expertise or ability. This overestimation occurs as a result of the fact that they do not have enough knowledge to know they don't have enough knowledge. Before you argue with someone ask yourself, "Is this person mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of a different perspective?" If not there is no point to argue. 4X NE2 CHAMPION. 2020 TDRA NE2 Champion |
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| quote: Originally posted by Eman:
Dipstick tube can be either an O-ring or a hat type seal depending on the tube. T350 shift shaft has a seal that is pressed into the trans housing. If you have a leak there the best bet is drop the pan and remove the shaft, has a clip and a nut on it. Then polish the shaft, chuck it in a drill and use fine emery or sandpaper and polish it clean. Then install a new seal and the clean polished shaft. Detent cable can have an 0-ring or a small boot type seal depending onm the cable. If the trans isn't using the detent remove it and tap the hole and put a pipe plug in it or band a oil gallery plug in.
Great tips, Eman; thanks! I see that new Sonnax shift shaft and seal kits are available at Jeg's and Summit for about 32 bucks. |
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| quote: Originally posted by Eman:
Check flatness of pan, good gasket installed dry. Then look really good at shift shaft, dipstick tube and where the detent cable goes in or the plug where it went in. Those are as likely to leak as the pan and run around the pan rail so it looks like the pan is leaking. Also check where the full mark is while you have the pan off, aftermarket sticks aren't known for accuracy.
I hate to trouble you again, buddy, but how does one gauge the mark on the tranny dipstick to the proper fill level in the pan? Is there some reference point in the transmission that one can compare the full mark to? Thanks again! |
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