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This was our oil pressure data log in the finals, the last race. 2 time runs & 6 elimination rounds. Short turn arounds last 3 passes.

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1980 Camaro
Taking the Best Working Small Tire Shyt Box & making it Greater Than Before!
3100 lbs.
Pump Gas 436
 
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^^^^^^ Nice, Like Holleys DA graphs, Thanks! What FPS is the acquisition set to?
 
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^^^^^^ Nice, Like Holleys DA graphs, Thanks! What FPS is the acquisition set to?


Heck, I don't know M & M! Not so sure I even know or if I can set it. I'll have to do some investigation.

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Taking the Best Working Small Tire Shyt Box & making it Greater Than Before!
3100 lbs.
Pump Gas 436
 
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^^^^^ Under Datalog tab, select Setup ECU Logging, and it’s the Logging Rate
 
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^^^^^ Under Datalog tab, select Setup ECU Logging, and it’s the Logging Rate


I see nothing like that or in the instructions. Remember my system isn't as robust as yours.

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1980 Camaro
Taking the Best Working Small Tire Shyt Box & making it Greater Than Before!
3100 lbs.
Pump Gas 436
 
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^^^^^ Under Datalog tab, select Setup ECU Logging, and it’s the Logging Rate

I see nothing like that or in the instructions. Remember my system isn't as robust as yours.


Looked at both Sniper and Terminator X and you are correct.
 
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^^^^^ Under Datalog tab, select Setup ECU Logging, and it’s the Logging Rate

I see nothing like that or in the instructions. Remember my system isn't as robust as yours.


Looked at both Sniper and Terminator X and you are correct.


I didn't want to be correct, I was hoping I had it. Not that I know how it would have helped me.

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1980 Camaro
Taking the Best Working Small Tire Shyt Box & making it Greater Than Before!
3100 lbs.
Pump Gas 436
 
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Mark, the next time you have it out you might check that the relief valve opens all the way. That guy Carl that used to be all over the forum going by CNCNORTHEAST posted pictures of Melling pumps relief valves only opening half way. Could be your issue.
 
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When doing a burnout, the oil pressure is always 90+ @ 6500 - 7000.


Little off topic, but why the high to me burnout rpm? Not just you but seems like others like higher rpm for the burnout.

I do a high gear burnout & try keep the rpm at 4500, sometimes I get to 5000 rpm. Eek

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1980 Camaro
Taking the Best Working Small Tire Shyt Box & making it Greater Than Before!
3100 lbs.
Pump Gas 436
 
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I think most of us respect David Reher, for good reason. This thread reminded me of one of his old Tech Talk articles. It has some good, hard learned I'm sure, practices for burnouts.

https://rehermorrison.com/tech...abusing-your-engine/


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Mark, the next time you have it out you might check that the relief valve opens all the way. That guy Carl that used to be all over the forum going by CNCNORTHEAST posted pictures of Melling pumps relief valves only opening half way. Could be your issue.


I agree that this is probably a pump problem. I had this exact same 10552 pump (not ST) in my SHP prior (2017-19) and never seen this excessive pressure at converter flash, but didn’t have DA either. This pump is only 10% more volume / pressure and was recommended by Carl Hinkson for the SHP / Little M engines as a better than standard volume upgrade when Dart recommended standard volume oil pumps only. He showed these in many of his Dart sbc builds.

I sent Melling Tech a question this morning about pump pressure at converter flash along with a pic of the DA I posted here and will post what they respond.

This Little M engine is being replaced next spring and there is only one last 4 day November event that I’m possibly attending in FL weather depending. The rebuilt SHP replacement has a new 10552ST pump also.
 
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Mark, the next time you have it out you might check that the relief valve opens all the way. That guy Carl that used to be all over the forum going by CNCNORTHEAST posted pictures of Melling pumps relief valves only opening half way. Could be your issue.


I agree that this is probably a pump problem. I had this exact same 10552 pump (not ST) in my SHP prior (2017-19) and never seen this excessive pressure at converter flash, but didn’t have DA either. This pump is only 10% more volume / pressure and was recommended by Carl Hinkson for the SHP / Little M engines as a better than standard volume upgrade when Dart recommended standard volume oil pumps only. He showed these in many of his Dart sbc builds.

I sent Melling Tech a question this morning about pump pressure at converter flash along with a pic of the DA I posted here and will post what they respond.

This Little M engine is being replaced next spring and there is only one last 4 day November event that I’m possibly attending in FL weather depending. The rebuilt SHP replacement has a new 10552ST pump also.


Let us know what you find. The issue I posted about is easy to see. Pushing the relief open manually it would only uncover half of the hole.
 
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I sent Melling Tech a question this morning about pump pressure at converter flash along with a pic of the DA I posted here and will post what they respond.


From Melling Tech:

The high pressure is likely due to too much oil pump volume output for the engine's flow needs. I would recommend the standard volume oil pump (10554ST ) like Dart does for use with their priority main oil system blocks. All of the Melling SBC Select pumps come with a pink 70psi spring in the relief valve and the optional 60psi yellow spring. The two extra feature high volume pumps, 10552ST and 10555ST, also include the 80psi green spring.
 
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So they are saying in essence that their relief valve isn't large enough to keep the pressure spike down?
 
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