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Why's no one at Big Foot @ Galot?

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June 13, 2022, 01:02 PM
SlyFox
Why's no one at Big Foot @ Galot?
quote:
Originally posted by 1320racer:
Banning manual starting line controllers definitely impacted car count and I suspect that same call will impact the WFC.


I would think banning cheating would INCREASE car counts, but I don't play in that sandbox.


Mike
June 13, 2022, 01:50 PM
1320racer
your opinion but these devices in one form or another have been in use for at least over 3 decades and have always been legal per the NHRA providing they are manually operated aka require no power to activate.

That said, I’m told none of the D1 hitters and past winners who have always supported loose rocker's footbrake races showed up.
June 13, 2022, 01:57 PM
Michael Beard
Wrong again...


FRIDAY

Winner - Dave Harvey, Jr


Runner-Up - Jesse Betterton
Semi - Randy Biddle, Jr.


SAT/SUN COMBO
Rain: Split & Quit at 7 Cars
Nick Hastings was still doubled, with one entry on the bye. Hastings was awarded the winner’s check and Eagle trophy by random chip draw. Adam Davis, who had a PERFECT RUN first round, drew the Runner-Up check. Other remaining drivers included: Alan Thatcher, Jesse Betterton, Mark Bridgers, and Lucas Walker



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June 13, 2022, 02:12 PM
Michael Beard
quote:
Originally posted by Holytown:
If the info I heard was correct, there were only 125-150 racers at VMP Triple Threat this weekend as well?


VMP Triple Threat
Friday - 197
Saturday - 194
Sunday - 170
https://dragstory.com/forum/in...php/board,502.0.html
June 13, 2022, 02:18 PM
Michael Beard
World Footbrake Challenge pre-entries as of the first week of June:
2021 - 275
2022 - 243
June 13, 2022, 02:47 PM
SlyFox
"Throttle control: Throttle must be manually operated by the driver’s foot, with the exception of Motorcycle. Electronics, pneumatics, hydraulics or any other device may in no way affect the
throttle operation. "

I interpret the above to mean that manual throttle controllers (including morse cables) are illegal per NHRA, but I only race at tracks local to me, so I have no idea what gets enforced (or not enforced) elsewhere.


Mike
June 13, 2022, 04:00 PM
1320racer
I'm not wrong, I was told

quote:
Originally posted by 1320racer:
I’m told none of the D1 hitters and past winners who have always supported loose rocker's footbrake races showed up.


I don't give a fuc, I don't race footbrake any more.

who else from D1 other than Harvey was there
June 13, 2022, 04:19 PM
1320racer
quote:
Originally posted by SlyFox:
I interpret the above to mean that manual throttle controllers (including morse cables) are illegal per NHRA, but I only race at tracks local to me, so I have no idea what gets enforced (or not enforced) elsewhere.

they have been and I assume still are legal in D1 in as much as many still have them in their cars and it's never been an issue at the bracket finals.
June 13, 2022, 04:54 PM
WHOMPWHOMP
Laughing Hard
June 13, 2022, 05:41 PM
Curly1
I am still curious what was the car count and was it really down that much?

If so Why?


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June 13, 2022, 07:43 PM
keyed up
like 57 on friday, and i hear 58 or so on saturday
June 13, 2022, 07:50 PM
1320racer
pretty dismal car count but yea, banning manual starting line controllers had nothing to do with it. Didn't think of that Laughing very hard

Way to screw the pooch Michael clapping
June 13, 2022, 07:57 PM
keyed up
the weather forecast was terrible mid-week. 75% chance of a washout for the saturday race.
June 13, 2022, 09:51 PM
Tom396
quote:
Originally posted by keyed up:
like 57 on friday, and i hear 58 or so on saturday


Eek Eek Eek

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June 14, 2022, 05:52 AM
Holytown
quote:
Originally posted by Curly1:
I am still curious what was the car count and was it really down that much?

If so Why?


99-102 is what I heard from a couple racers that were there.
June 14, 2022, 09:06 AM
RacerVX54
Vmp looked bare last weekend. Not even 200 cars. Last year it was 400ish.


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Martin Racing
5.66 @121.55
June 14, 2022, 02:34 PM
Brktracer
It's a shame the attendance was poor. I'd like to see this format continue.

I'm trying to run Loose Rocker events. Both were on my calendar this year. The spring race was postponed to the same weekend as the NHRA D2 bracket finals at SGMP. This past race was rescheduled to the same weekend that my local track runs their weekend points race. Also, another local track was running a 3 day race.

I have 2 children running jr's so they come first.

Also, the Thanksgiving race is on top of big jr races.

This year's schedule just totally didn't work out.


Matt Ward



June 16, 2022, 08:39 AM
Jared
The Loose Rocker event had everything working against them. Having to change date and location is rough. LOTS of events keeping racers closer to home, in areas that usually offer good support. Potential weather on people's mind and the list goes on.

From what I've seen, Michael and Anthony went above and beyond to make it enjoyable and worth the racer's investment. They did more than anyone expected and I applaud them for that.

As for the hand controllers, we have the numbers of how many we've had in attendance each event, for the past 3 years. They represent a fair % of the crowd, but in no way is the number a 'make or break' type number.

I'm sure our event will be impacted by the ruling, but we will never know the true impact. I've had some racers say they're coming because we made the change. Either way, we felt like it was the best decision for the event, and we will live with the results.


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June 16, 2022, 08:47 AM
SlyFox
quote:
Originally posted by Jared:

As for the hand controllers, we have the numbers of how many we've had in attendance each event, for the past 3 years. They represent a fair % of the crowd, but in no way is the number a 'make or break' type number.

I'm sure our event will be impacted by the ruling, but we will never know the true impact. I've had some racers say they're coming because we made the change. Either way, we felt like it was the best decision for the event, and we will live with the results.


I applaud your decision.


Mike
June 16, 2022, 08:59 AM
1320racer
I denounce your decision though it doesn’t effect me and I never attended the WFC.