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What would truly define excessive braking?

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Skid marks, smoke from the front tires, front tires flat

Jerry Emmons has a history of excessive braking and crying about it when the NHRA takes action

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I agree with the above statement. Smoke from the front tires is a clear sign that control was lost. Just because you slid straight does not mean you had control.

Perfect example was the in car view of Jeg Coughlin Jr. on Motor Mania at Xenia. 2-3 nitrous taps and a hard drop. You could see the car sashaying while he was on the brake pedal.

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I don't even follow Stock/Super Stock racing, but I believe I have seen a video of this Emmons character doing a complete 180 at the finish line in a Camaro after excessive braking.


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You think Gauge Burch was braking excessively at the SFG race when he nearly whacked his opponent? Did it matter?
 
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Originally posted by 442OLDS:
What would truly define excessive braking?



Looks to me like the NHRA just defined it by tossing him.

By now, Emmons surely knows that there are risks associated with excessive braking, one of them being that you might get DQ'ed. He's free to take that risk, and the NHRA is free to toss him. I'm not seeing the controversy.


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I don't even follow Stock/Super Stock racing, but I believe I have seen a video of this Emmons character doing a complete 180 at the finish line in a Camaro after excessive braking.


You sure you aren't remembering the Fletcher kid's 360? NHRA shows that one from time to time. Kind of hypocritical of them to me.



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I would say this is pretty excessive and fits the definition of what not to do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXHeCpBAagA


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^^^^ Let's focus on the positive shall we.... "incredible save". HMMMM


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I don't even follow Stock/Super Stock racing, but I believe I have seen a video of this Emmons character doing a complete 180 at the finish line in a Camaro after excessive braking.


You sure you aren't remembering the Fletcher kid's 360? NHRA shows that one from time to time. Kind of hypocritical of them to me.


You are correct, my apologies to Mr. Emmons.


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I would say this is pretty excessive and fits the definition of what not to do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXHeCpBAagA



There was a problem with the left front brake, which was later found and fixed.


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I love Dan but his son locked up both fronts....
You can see skid marks from both wheels...the left front was stopped and the right is not visible but there are skid marks on both sides...Way to hard on the brakes and he was extremely lucky....I'm sure he got yelled at by Dan...It's old news anyway....

A clear policy should be in place....Not vague and no warnings.....You get spotted doing anything that aggressive and you're out....no matter who you are....

I would say we all have been aggressive on the brakes at one time or another

I did it plenty of times and got way less aggressive as I drove faster and faster speeds......

Take the L and go home in 1 piece.....1/4 mile speeds are faster than ever....
 
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LOL, it's never the driver's fault, it's always a defective/locking caliper.


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If it's a $50,000 drop at a million I get it sorta lol if it's a regular Saturday night $1,000 to win race that won't replace the front tires and wheels much less the rest of the car well as I've gotten older that really doesn't make much sense to me.


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What if that 50k drop at the million causes him to loose control and hit your car ? Still ok that it’s a 50k drop. Smoke from any tires at the finish line should be a DQ no matter who you are unless you roll back in the pits and the front is locked up because of a mechanical issue
 
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Jerry Emmons has a history of excessive braking and crying about it when the NHRA takes action

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Jerry, Terry, Gary and Harvey have won more races than everyone combined on this forum. You don't know $h!t about his history other than what you've heard. You won't find a nicer guy, or a better racer.



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feel better now? never said he wasn't a nice guy and I know what I've read from the NHRA and what I've seen with my own eyes and as far as finding a better racer, I don't need to, the NHRA already has a list of many who are better.
 
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Please correct me if I am reading these posts wrong here: some of you are justifying….legitimizing the practice of excessive braking. Is that what I’m seeing?


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You cannot have total control of a race car when the wheels are locked up.
 
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Originally posted by 442OLDS:
What would truly define excessive braking?


If they prepped the finish line same as the starting line, and you rip a brake caliper or two off the car.

Then it's not a subjective (opinion) matter.
 
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