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Kind of the same situation with electric jr dragsters. The normal jr engines seem to be very temperamental, electric not so much. Prime example last race it was very cold and most of the jr dragsters were having issues, electric car just zips on down. Now the young man that runs it is plenty good on the tree and finish line, but the electric car can have a huge advantage in some conditions.


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THE SKY IS FALLING...THE SKY IS FALLING...THE SKY IS FALLING...

Every current performance car Camaro, Hellcat, Mustang, Tesla it computer controlled pretty much equally. Any of these "computer experts" can tune any of them to do what they want.

Maybe it is time to park all these 60's muscle cars and join the 21st century.

Oh BTW...Batteries are very much effected by the ambient temperatures.


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Originally posted by Stephen Hughes:
Kind of the same situation with electric jr dragsters. The normal jr engines seem to be very temperamental, electric not so much. Prime example last race it was very cold and most of the jr dragsters were having issues, electric car just zips on down. Now the young man that runs it is plenty good on the tree and finish line, but the electric car can have a huge advantage in some conditions.


Maybe all the jr's should be electric and level the playing field so kids race kids, and not kids racing Daddy's wallets. Maybe the parents will teach their kids to play fairly rather, than the insanity that the jr's parents have created.


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Originally posted by Hotrod Corvette:Maybe it is time to park all these 60's muscle cars and join the 21st century.


Agreed…You First. Report back when you get it done with the results.
 
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Until they do proper random teardowns you cant police any bracket class, why make an example of electric vehicles?
 
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Originally posted by Stephen Hughes:
Kind of the same situation with electric jr dragsters. The normal jr engines seem to be very temperamental, electric not so much. Prime example last race it was very cold and most of the jr dragsters were having issues, electric car just zips on down. Now the young man that runs it is plenty good on the tree and finish line, but the electric car can have a huge advantage in some conditions.


Maybe all the jr's should be electric and level the playing field so kids race kids, and not kids racing Daddy's wallets. Maybe the parents will teach their kids to play fairly rather, than the insanity that the jr's parents have created.


Can you elaborate? Remember also that the jr electric powerplants are about three times as expensive as the IC versions.


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Most people can't afford to get rid of their 60's muscle cars, and "Join the new era" even if they wanted to.

How many people can afford to buy a brand new car just to tear it up and make it a race car? I know I can't!
 
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Until they do proper random teardowns you cant police any bracket class, why make an example of electric vehicles?


At least you have an idea of what you are looking for with the standard bracket car. I'm not saying someone couldn't go to great lengths to hide a wheel counter but at least you know it isn't built in from the factory. I haven't made up my mind if I'm against them or not but I can understand the questions relating to policing them.



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When there is a legitimate million dollars on the line just for the winner, I don't see an issue with a teardown from Semi's on.

I think the semis of that race paid 90,000. For that kinda money I'll take my car down to nuts and bolts if you'd like. I don't see the how anyone can argue against that really, as long as its listed in the rules that it will happen if you get to X round.
 
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The sky is not falling but the ceiling is lower! The new copo, Ford or Mopar are not even close to what Tesla has onboard. Think about the technology to drive itself… As for giving up my muscle car ? NFW! No exhaust note? Who does that! Cards in the spokes, stereo with an ex note? Really?
Yes they are fast, yes they are cool. I’ll support the Dinosaurs Not worthy


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When there is a legitimate million dollars on the line just for the winner, I don't see an issue with a teardown from Semi's on.

I think the semis of that race paid 90,000. For that kinda money I'll take my car down to nuts and bolts if you'd like. I don't see the how anyone can argue against that really, as long as its listed in the rules that it will happen if you get to X round.


Just cheat until you get to "the split", then ride on luck and skill?


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When there is a legitimate million dollars on the line just for the winner, I don't see an issue with a teardown from Semi's on.

I think the semis of that race paid 90,000. For that kinda money I'll take my car down to nuts and bolts if you'd like. I don't see the how anyone can argue against that really, as long as its listed in the rules that it will happen if you get to X round.


Just cheat until you get to "the split", then ride on luck and skill?


Do you think they could secretly remove any cheating devices from the car at that point without anyone noticing?

I don't think blutooth is fast enough to communicate in the time needed to make a car hit the tree and go dead on.
 
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Just be "00" and take "00"- you will make some "splits", it's EZ they say- right?


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Cheat through the Buy Back rounds and then remove the wire the is counting the magnets in your drilled parking pawl hooked up to the hidden 7531. Good luck sorting through the spider web of wires under the dash. Stick to the 10-20k races so everyone is 5-6 "sodas" deep and they care a lot less about the winner.
 
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Cheat through the Buy Back rounds and then remove the wire the is counting the magnets in your drilled parking pawl hooked up to the hidden 7531. Good luck sorting through the spider web of wires under the dash. Stick to the 10-20k races so everyone is 5-6 "sodas" deep and they care a lot less about the winner.


It’s multiplexed so they’ll never know what wire does what unless they are inside the box.


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Originally posted by Holytown:
When there is a legitimate million dollars on the line just for the winner, I don't see an issue with a teardown from Semi's on.

I think the semis of that race paid 90,000. For that kinda money I'll take my car down to nuts and bolts if you'd like. I don't see the how anyone can argue against that really, as long as its listed in the rules that it will happen if you get to X round.


Just cheat until you get to "the split", then ride on luck and skill?


Do you think they could secretly remove any cheating devices from the car at that point without anyone noticing?

I don't think blutooth is fast enough to communicate in the time needed to make a car hit the tree and go dead on.


I don't give it any thought. Everyone has a car that will run dead-low all day.

Nothing prevents me from being perfect every run, except my own limitations.

Parking in the right spot in the staging lanes is most important, LOL.


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Parking in the right spot in the staging lanes is most important


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IHRA made a class for them, but I can't imagine that there have been that many entries.

https://www.ihra.com/ihra-news...-superseries-in-2021

I can appreciate the technology behind them, but since I can't afford one, I have no interest.


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Originally posted by Stephen Hughes:
Kind of the same situation with electric jr dragsters. The normal jr engines seem to be very temperamental, electric not so much. Prime example last race it was very cold and most of the jr dragsters were having issues, electric car just zips on down. Now the young man that runs it is plenty good on the tree and finish line, but the electric car can have a huge advantage in some conditions.


Maybe all the jr's should be electric and level the playing field so kids race kids, and not kids racing Daddy's wallets. Maybe the parents will teach their kids to play fairly rather, than the insanity that the jr's parents have created.


Can you elaborate? Remember also that the jr electric powerplants are about three times as expensive as the IC versions.


Crazy electric motors are $$$ But let's say golf cart electric motors. They started off jr racing with lawnmower engines, before Daddy went crazy...Right?


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Originally posted by Holytown:
Most people can't afford to get rid of their 60's muscle cars, and "Join the new era" even if they wanted to.

How many people can afford to buy a brand new car just to tear it up and make it a race car? I know I can't!


No offence...but go to a national event, and you can see all kinds of these un-affordable projects.


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