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| DRR Elite |
Not to give them ideas, but frankly even charging for the time session in the morning...$10 or something extra. A lot would be willing to pay. Foxtrot Juliet Bravo | |||
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| DRR Pro |
I think Bucky's idea is a win-win. Many folks don't want to show up early and pay an extra $10 for a time shot. Fine. Show up when you want. It shouldn't be anything those folks would not like. In fact, it would mean the facility would be ready to rock for them, rather than making the first few folks being guinea pigs. AND, I feel sure there would be plenty of test and tuners who would show up just for early hours of time shots. That would represent more profit for the track operator (just like regular test and tune does). Great idea, Bucky!  Take care. Tom WorthingtonIf it seems that bracket racing has gotten too expensive for you, maybe you are just doing it wrong. | |||
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DRR Pro |
Most regular races here have 2 scheduled time shots, except on day 2 of multi day events, then it's 1, or 1 only for new arrivals. Half the S/P cars want to skip the first run for some reason. Man, some of y'all are just tore up that the track might turn an event profit!  IF a track is lucky enough to find staff that will show up on a regular basis, you're looking at $400 to $1000 PER HOUR to be in operation. Time is $$$$ Opening the gate earlier is not a solution, plus, I'd like to hear some of your thoughts after you've worked a 2 or 3 day event. It's not as much fun as racing. goob- if you want to improve bracket racing, spend a season WORKING at a race track, get a look at it from the other side, I guarantee you'll come away different. goob2- as a racer I am comfortable with racing off the trailer, or with 1 shot, practice really doesn't help me.  "Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular." Dave Cook N375 | |||
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DRR Pro |
In my example, our local track already opens at 8:00a so nothing early about that one. Not worried about a track making a profit but I do believe a single time shot every bracket race is chasing away possible racers. I'm an hour+ from this track but have two others within 1.5 hours and I'm leaning towards racing there. I just believe that two shots is doable when you're opening at 8am and looking to close by curfew at 11pm. I agree with the staff issues and the money to operate. I worked 5 years at Budds Creek (MDIR)- three day races, IHRA National Events and a ton of 2 day race weekends. | |||
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| DRR Elite |
I would agree with you on 2 or 3 day events. But the question was about weekly bracket races. That is the only opportunity most of us have to actually work on our cars. Foxtrot Juliet Bravo | |||
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| DRR Sportsman |
Ain't that the truth!! If more people would do a burnout and get in the beams within 30 seconds (which is not very difficult to do even in a dragster), all programs would probably chop a few hours off the night!! When I had my dragsters I would do a burnout and didn't even go past the starting line. The tires spin so fast they'll smoke, and just stop before the beams. That car repeated in the 60' like crazy and was usually around 1.04 60'. So its not like it was leaving soft! | |||
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| DRR Top Comp |
If there's buybacks, first round is your second time run. | |||
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| DRR Top Comp |
The more I read the complaints of racers, the more I realize Art Malone knew drag racers, that's probably why we'd have 300-400 cars every Friday night, 41 weeks a year. Art (rip) would run a round of test hits after fifth round, invitation only. All ya had to do for an invitation, was ask. | |||
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| DRR Top Comp |
Americana  | |||
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| DRR Pro |
We gated at Noon, ran Juniors to their completion from 1 to 3, then 3 time trials for everyone and elimination rounds started at 7. One hour later during the summer. 120-140 total racers. Average race was 45 seconds from tree cycle to cycle. That's a good pace for any program. 1/8th mile "Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular." Dave Cook N375 | |||
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DRR S/Pro |
you need to race at some of the tracks near me. Gates open at 4 first of 2 time runs maybe at 6 or 7. Or go to the big track and time runs start early and they have the second time run split, first non dash for cash time runs then they charge $10 for the dash time runs. That's with 6 classes! So they go through all 6 for second time run then you pay for the late time run. So if you take the non dash option you could go to town and have a long lunch before 1st round. | |||
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DRR S/Pro |
How much do they pay back for the dash? ____________________________ 2017 and 2018 Osage Casinos Tulsa Raceway Park No-Box Champion 2018 Div4 Goodguys Hammer award winner | |||
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| DRR S/Pro |
Last I remember it's 1/2 what they take in and the bye for 1st round. | |||
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DRR Sportsman |
Only problem with one and done is that it forces you to get to the track early. Other than that I see no reason to have a bunch of time runs. Let's get straight to eliminations and maybe even have a gambler's race. | |||
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DRR Trophy |
Most here still do 2 but my closest track is normally 1 because of early curfew and not able to finish when big car count. | |||
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DRR Top Comp |
Goob knows!! '81 Cutlass, KX05, Keystone Raceway Park Millerstown Pic-A-Part, Tarentum, PA Wholesale Transmission, New Kensington, PA Thinking of Nikki and Mark - forever 53 | |||
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| DRR Elite |
With the attitude toward time runs at some tracks, I dunno how a new driver can even get their license. We are getting late in the season and short on racing. Hit a race yesterday and they said they would be having time runs, albeit not unlimited. I let them know our intention was to shake down a car and license a driver. Great. Hot on track noon. Get two squirts, and then they skip time runs for the third time session and round one and round two. So here we are at 8 pm, and there is a starting line oil down. After two hours we left figuring no way they are getting more time runs in. Not sure what took so long about the clean up, but not much they can do to prevent that. However, why even sell time run tech cards if you have no intention of giving them squirts during the sessions? We wouldn't have come had we known that was the approach. Wasn't a big race car count wise. I dunno. Grand total of maybe 10 time trial cars were there. Foxtrot Juliet Bravo | |||
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| DRR Top Comp |
When I was racing points last the track opened at 1, we had 2 time runs, 2nd was dash for cash paying back 90%. We would be out of there, finished, by 10. Thats 9 hours start to finish. But when the last pair of top left the line the first pair of Foot Brake was in the water. Same as eliminations went on, when the pair on the line left the pair in the water were starting their burnout. Your class finished and you were not there, to bad. You watch these races on Motor Mania and you see how much time is just plain wasted the worst 1/2 hour between classes and waiting for doubles to get back. If its silent its time being wasted. | |||
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DRR Pro |
Down this way the tracks have gone to one time shot...this includes multiple day events...only new entries get one later on...as y'all know big money events such as SFG have gone to no time shots whatsoever...this is all well and good but for my pump gas car, dialing of the trailer is a bit problematic... | |||
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| DRR Elite |
Race day is not the day to shake down a car and/or get licensed UNLESS arranged with the track manager BEFORE you show up snd even then it’s subject to change based on weather, delays, oil downs, etc. The person at the gate is just there to collect your $ and has no decision in how many time shots you will get. Track management has an obligation to complete the RACE that racers showed up for and paid for, not guaranteed you X number of test/tune passes. | |||
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