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Originally posted by T-TOWNSTANG7639:
I'm too young to know how people reacted to fuel injection and computer car vs carbs when they first became a reality, but were there this many tin hat wearing crazys back then??

Good god if your car doesn't repeat within a couple thou in similar weather now you aren't winning anyways.. if you guys think these things are just going to show up and run the number you're delusional.. sure they wont be affected by a 30 degree temp swing or a storm front rolling through changing humidity, but they'll have their own challenges to navigate that will be just as complex if not worse than yours.. they don't need their own class

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Originally posted by J178RED:

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Originally posted by T-TOWNSTANG7639:
I'm too young to know how people reacted to fuel injection and computer car vs carbs when they first became a reality, but were there this many tin hat wearing crazys back then??

Good god if your car doesn't repeat within a couple thou in similar weather now you aren't winning anyways.. if you guys think these things are just going to show up and run the number you're delusional.. sure they wont be affected by a 30 degree temp swing or a storm front rolling through changing humidity, but they'll have their own challenges to navigate that will be just as complex if not worse than yours.. they don't need their own class

Brad is dead on, there was electric dragster in Phoenix for a while he had the same problems as all of us trying to repeat dead on....Just saying

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Originally posted by T-TOWNSTANG7639:
I'm too young to know how people reacted to fuel injection and computer car vs carbs when they first became a reality, but were there this many tin hat wearing crazys back then??

Good god if your car doesn't repeat within a couple thou in similar weather now you aren't winning anyways.. if you guys think these things are just going to show up and run the number you're delusional.. sure they wont be affected by a 30 degree temp swing or a storm front rolling through changing humidity, but they'll have their own challenges to navigate that will be just as complex if not worse than yours.. they don't need their own class

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Originally posted by Bucky:
I don't think any of us can say we are experts about how electric motors can and will be used in bracket racing. And that's kind of the point. If you make rules after racers have invested in set ups, you will lose those racers forever. it simply isn't fair to them. So the rules need to be specific about what is allowed for controls. Stuffing that genie back in the bottle is a tough thing to do.

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Originally posted by Richard Hammond:

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Originally posted by Bucky:
I don't think any of us can say we are experts about how electric motors can and will be used in bracket racing. And that's kind of the point. If you make rules after racers have invested in set ups, you will lose those racers forever. it simply isn't fair to them. So the rules need to be specific about what is allowed for controls. Stuffing that genie back in the bottle is a tough thing to do.

Why do you assume that they will print time slips? One 100k car makes a 9 second pass and you automatically think it will win every bracket race it’s entered in.

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Originally posted by Bucky:

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Originally posted by Richard Hammond:

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Originally posted by Bucky:
I don't think any of us can say we are experts about how electric motors can and will be used in bracket racing. And that's kind of the point. If you make rules after racers have invested in set ups, you will lose those racers forever. it simply isn't fair to them. So the rules need to be specific about what is allowed for controls. Stuffing that genie back in the bottle is a tough thing to do.

Why do you assume that they will print time slips? One 100k car makes a 9 second pass and you automatically think it will win every bracket race it’s entered in.

That's the point. It's unwise to assume anything here. They need to be in front of this to some extent with rules appropriate for the electrics.

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And what rules would that be?

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Originally posted by botmbulb:
If you build an internal combustion combination correctly, you won't move through daily weather changes either. Barometer should be your only concern, but it shouldn't move more than a point in 2-3 hours (which would only be about .010 in ET in the 1/4 mile). If the barometer moves more than that in 2-3 hours, you're probably not racing for long anyway. If done right, temperature shouldn't affect you, and water grains would have to change substantially.

If your current combination cannot do this, that is the place to start. Work the current problem, not a perceived one.

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Originally posted by SS427IMP: Maybe- for the same track on the same day. For any other track on any other day you're going to be changing jets, air bleeds, timing, etc. to adjust for the air. Otherwise, why would you even need a weather station or race computer?

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Originally posted by SS427IMP:
I should have clarified: If you're trying to run the same number every pass in different air you have to adjust for it.
No?

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Originally posted by ferndaleflyer:
Bud you need to let the man know that you run an Oldsmobile and they CAN repeat run to run, day to day without adjusting anything---most of the time

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Originally posted by ferndaleflyer:
Bud you need to let the man know that you run an Oldsmobile and they CAN repeat run to run, day to day without adjusting anything---most of the time