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US Labor department says up to 47 MILLION people could be unemployed before this is over.
Or 32% unemployment rate.

WOW


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This worker’s $888 weekly unemployment check would exceed their $577 paycheck over four months.

We love to hold the individual accountable, and that's fine they should be. For example they sell alcohol in convenience stores, bars, taverns, pubs, clubs, etc., etc., and they all sell liquor by the drink and they all have parking lots. Yet we love to hold the individual accountable while facilitating drunk driving. More to the point, the portion of the $2.2T going to individuals is by far the smaller portion of the total. But at least it's can and will be accounted for. But what about the corporate welfare? Not saying some isn't warranted, but one thing is for sure, there will be no accounting, at least to the public and we will never know what went where. So, worrying about the lesser portion of the $2.2T, the individuals benefits, is kinda like stepping over a dollar to pick up a dime. Just sayin.


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It is my understanding that there are safeguards built into this bill against corporations...for example, they cannot use funds they get to buy back stock...also there are quite a bit of transparency rules for corporations in this bill as well...corporations are made up of individuals so it could be argued that corporate aid is aid to individuals...

Will there be abuses?...absolutely, no different than any other gubment project, sad to say...
 
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This worker’s $888 weekly unemployment check would exceed their $577 paycheck over four months.

We love to hold the individual accountable, and that's fine they should be. For example they sell alcohol in convenience stores, bars, taverns, pubs, clubs, etc., etc., and they all sell liquor by the drink and they all have parking lots. Yet we love to hold the individual accountable while facilitating drunk driving. More to the point, the portion of the $2.2T going to individuals is by far the smaller portion of the total. But at least it's can and will be accounted for. But what about the corporate welfare? Not saying some isn't warranted, but one thing is for sure, there will be no accounting, at least to the public and we will never know what went where. So, worrying about the lesser portion of the $2.2T, the individuals benefits, is kinda like stepping over a dollar to pick up a dime. Just sayin.


You got that right brother, 1% of the people get 99% of the socialism.
 
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More to the point, the portion of the $2.2T going to individuals is by far the smaller portion of the total. But at least it's can and will be accounted for. But what about the corporate welfare? Not saying some isn't warranted, but one thing is for sure, there will be no accounting, at least to the public and we will never know what went where.


Please point out the corporate welfare with no accounting in the bill.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/.../house-bill/748/text

By "corporations", do you mean museums, centers for performing arts, politically connected universities, public broadcasting, Congressional babysitting and food service, the Railroad Retirement Board, etc.? Or are you talking about the LOANS being made available to businesses?


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This worker’s $888 weekly unemployment check would exceed their $577 paycheck over four months.

We love to hold the individual accountable, and that's fine they should be. For example they sell alcohol in convenience stores, bars, taverns, pubs, clubs, etc., etc., and they all sell liquor by the drink and they all have parking lots. Yet we love to hold the individual accountable while facilitating drunk driving. More to the point, the portion of the $2.2T going to individuals is by far the smaller portion of the total. But at least it's can and will be accounted for. But what about the corporate welfare? Not saying some isn't warranted, but one thing is for sure, there will be no accounting, at least to the public and we will never know what went where. So, worrying about the lesser portion of the $2.2T, the individuals benefits, is kinda like stepping over a dollar to pick up a dime. Just sayin.



There will be people like Mad Dog Dan that will be getting screwed and people that pay little to nothing in taxes that will be making out. As shown in your post.

As Fuzzy Dice said there are rules for corporations.

I guess you rather have no jobs for people to go back to when this is over?
 
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This worker’s $888 weekly unemployment check would exceed their $577 paycheck over four months.

We love to hold the individual accountable, and that's fine they should be. For example they sell alcohol in convenience stores, bars, taverns, pubs, clubs, etc., etc., and they all sell liquor by the drink and they all have parking lots. Yet we love to hold the individual accountable while facilitating drunk driving. More to the point, the portion of the $2.2T going to individuals is by far the smaller portion of the total. But at least it's can and will be accounted for. But what about the corporate welfare? Not saying some isn't warranted, but one thing is for sure, there will be no accounting, at least to the public and we will never know what went where. So, worrying about the lesser portion of the $2.2T, the individuals benefits, is kinda like stepping over a dollar to pick up a dime. Just sayin.


You got that right brother, 1% of the people get 99% of the socialism.



Let me ask you a question, are you going to send the check you get from the IRS back?
 
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This worker’s $888 weekly unemployment check would exceed their $577 paycheck over four months.

We love to hold the individual accountable, and that's fine they should be. For example they sell alcohol in convenience stores, bars, taverns, pubs, clubs, etc., etc., and they all sell liquor by the drink and they all have parking lots. Yet we love to hold the individual accountable while facilitating drunk driving. More to the point, the portion of the $2.2T going to individuals is by far the smaller portion of the total. But at least it's can and will be accounted for. But what about the corporate welfare? Not saying some isn't warranted, but one thing is for sure, there will be no accounting, at least to the public and we will never know what went where. So, worrying about the lesser portion of the $2.2T, the individuals benefits, is kinda like stepping over a dollar to pick up a dime. Just sayin.


You got that right brother, 1% of the people get 99% of the socialism.



Let me ask you a question, are you going to send the check you get from the IRS back?


I can't speak for anyone else,but my "Stimulus" check ,if received,will be used toward paying sales tax,income tax,property tax,gas tax,state tax, tolls and all the other taxes that currently exist in addition to the further taxes coming.
 
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This worker’s $888 weekly unemployment check would exceed their $577 paycheck over four months.

We love to hold the individual accountable, and that's fine they should be. For example they sell alcohol in convenience stores, bars, taverns, pubs, clubs, etc., etc., and they all sell liquor by the drink and they all have parking lots. Yet we love to hold the individual accountable while facilitating drunk driving. More to the point, the portion of the $2.2T going to individuals is by far the smaller portion of the total. But at least it's can and will be accounted for. But what about the corporate welfare? Not saying some isn't warranted, but one thing is for sure, there will be no accounting, at least to the public and we will never know what went where. So, worrying about the lesser portion of the $2.2T, the individuals benefits, is kinda like stepping over a dollar to pick up a dime. Just sayin.


You got that right brother, 1% of the people get 99% of the socialism.



Let me ask you a question, are you going to send the check you get from the IRS back?


I sure am. I've never taken government assistance and I never will.

That money is a choice just like globalism. Participation is your signature of approval.

Only this is socialism - communism.

If you ever see me pushing a grocery cart down the sidewalk wearing duck tape slippers, don't laugh, because I'll be laughing back.

I just had a guy call and order a $4500 transmission, blew my mind, I'm an essential worker!

I'm just passing through, I don't need that money.

Plus if I don't take it. I can say I never participated in any of the ruin of the USA. They never got my signature of approval.

Corona is the catalyst, not the reason. This was gonna happen with or without corona.

Globalism vile maxim brought us here, Greed.

I'd rather be broke than take a handout. If i'm gonna be broke, it's only a matter of time anyway.

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Not taking the check doesn't do anything with the socialism. It will go right on, and you will participate with your taxes. I'm not sure what the most effective way is to stop it. But I know the refusing the check isn't going to effect anything.


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I would donate my check to someone out of work, but I don't think I will be receiving one....

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Not taking the check doesn't do anything with the socialism. It will go right on, and you will participate with your taxes. I'm not sure what the most effective way is to stop it. But I know the refusing the check isn't going to effect anything.


So what you're saying is, is akin to the same logic used by guards in Stalins gulags.

If you read the book Gulag Archipelago, this was their reasoning. Whether I shoot a guy in the head on command or not, isn't gonna change anything, because if I don't someone else will and the shootings will go on, so I may as well shoot the guy in the head, or I may get shot in the head, which is what did happen if you didn't participate.

In the end everyone got shot in the head anyway, or worse. Which is how communism always ends. With everyone dead anyway.

Read that book and tell me communism isn't satanism.

This is who our middle class was sold out for, the chinese Empire which resulted.

These people are capable of cooking a dog alive, no surprise there.
 
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Be confident you're living in historical times of Biblical proportions.

Every choice you make matters.

 
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I fail to see why you would not accept a Government stimulus check if you get one.

What exactly are you accomplishing if you refuse it?

Let's say that you feel financially secure and have tons of money in your mattress.

I can see the Government (in the coming years) making cash illegal and not printing anymore.

I have a feeling that a cashless society is coming sooner than you think.

Those that have cash will be forced to deposit it somewhere or will forfeit it.

It seems ridiculous,but these are ridiculous times that we live in.
 
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I fail to see why you would not accept a Government stimulus check if you get one.

What exactly are you accomplishing if you refuse it?

Let's say that you feel financially secure and have tons of money in your mattress.

I can see the Government (in the coming years) making cash illegal and not printing anymore.

I have a feeling that a cashless society is coming sooner than you think.

Those that have cash will be forced to deposit it somewhere or will forfeit it.

It seems ridiculous,but these are ridiculous times that we live in.


Cashless is about control.

I have no problem with anyone else taking the check, I understand debt K?

But see I was brought up to watch for what has and is taking place, so I have no debt. The reason I have no debt is because everything is made in china. Now on the other hand if everything was made in USA, there would be a future in debt, for OBVIOUS reasons. Obviously now there is no future in debt correct? Now if you weren't brought up to understand how this works I can understand why you'd have debt.

I was brought up like it was the great depression everyday. And to have a watchful eye for creeping communism.

Look if everything were made in USA we wouldn't be in this position. We'd just seal our borders and carry on producing and there would be a future in debt. I'm definitely not taking the check.
https://youtu.be/vAI2QOBMlTA
I understood what this video is saying the first time I saw it, because I was taught to look for creeping communism. To me IMO, this is the check, it's a stimulant.

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I fail to see why you would not accept a Government stimulus check if you get one.

What exactly are you accomplishing if you refuse it?

Let's say that you feel financially secure and have tons of money in your mattress.

I can see the Government (in the coming years) making cash illegal and not printing anymore.

I have a feeling that a cashless society is coming sooner than you think.

Those that have cash will be forced to deposit it somewhere or will forfeit it.

It seems ridiculous,but these are ridiculous times that we live in.


Cashless is about control.

I have no problem with anyone else taking the check, I understand debt K?

But see I was brought up to watch for what has and is taking place, so I have no debt. The reason I have no debt is because everything is made in china. Now on the other hand if everything was made in USA, there would be a future in debt, for OBVIOUS reasons. Obviously now there is no future in debt correct? Now if you weren't brought up to understand how this works I can understand why you'd have debt.

I was brought up like it was the great depression everyday. And to have a watchful eye for creeping communism.

Look if everything were made in USA we wouldn't be in this position. We'd just seal our borders and carry on producing and there would be a future in debt. I'm definitely not taking the check.
https://youtu.be/vAI2QOBMlTA
I understood what this video is saying the first time I saw it, because I was taught to look for creeping communism. To me IMO, this is the check, it's a stimulant.


Having no or little debt would seem like a responsible way to live one's life.However,when all of this shakes out in the economy,the winners will probably be the ones with the most debt.

Some creditors will be forced to accept pennies on the dollar.
 
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I fail to see why you would not accept a Government stimulus check if you get one.

What exactly are you accomplishing if you refuse it?

Let's say that you feel financially secure and have tons of money in your mattress.

I can see the Government (in the coming years) making cash illegal and not printing anymore.

I have a feeling that a cashless society is coming sooner than you think.

Those that have cash will be forced to deposit it somewhere or will forfeit it.

It seems ridiculous,but these are ridiculous times that we live in.


Cashless is about control.

I have no problem with anyone else taking the check, I understand debt K?

But see I was brought up to watch for what has and is taking place, so I have no debt. The reason I have no debt is because everything is made in china. Now on the other hand if everything was made in USA, there would be a future in debt, for OBVIOUS reasons. Obviously now there is no future in debt correct? Now if you weren't brought up to understand how this works I can understand why you'd have debt.

I was brought up like it was the great depression everyday. And to have a watchful eye for creeping communism.

Look if everything were made in USA we wouldn't be in this position. We'd just seal our borders and carry on producing and there would be a future in debt. I'm definitely not taking the check.
https://youtu.be/vAI2QOBMlTA
I understood what this video is saying the first time I saw it, because I was taught to look for creeping communism. To me IMO, this is the check, it's a stimulant.


Having no or little debt would seem like a responsible way to live one's life.However,when all of this shakes out in the economy,the winners will probably be the ones with the most debt.

Some creditors will be forced to accept pennies on the dollar.


This is gonna be the biggest wealth transfer in the history of the world.

Consider the position we're in. Our constitutional liberties are suspended. Have you heard anyone talking about when they'll be un-suspended? I haven't.

I'd have the least to gain if there were a debt jubilee, you're 100% correct, but I'd be all for it. You know why? Because there would be a future in it.

I don't see that type of reset occurring / unfolding do you? I see hyperinflation.

If I'm gonna be broke, it's only a matter of time anyway. $1200 ain't gonna make or break me.

I don't see it going that way with creditors. I see creditors being financialized to insure it doesn't go that way.

My neighbor has his family sleeping in a tent behind their house. Because he gets it, preparing them for the worst ahead of time, just in case.

Hope for the best and plan for the worst.

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When you owe $100 to a bank,it is YOUR problem if you don't pay it.

If you owe $1,000,000 to a bank,the bank now has a problem.
 
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When you owe $100 to a bank,it is YOUR problem if you don't pay it.

If you owe $1,000,000 to a bank,the bank now has a problem.


I just tried to order everything for this transmission cash money. The two firms I purshase from, must not have essential business status. Terrible times.

Yeah, I know too much about how this works, and it'll all sound too much like doom and gloom for some, so I'm gonna skip it and get back to work. Hopefully I can find someone to take this money this guy wants to get rid of.

Is anyone open for business? I need everything but the hard part internals. I have cores.
 
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