I think I have done all of that crap. They in the past have had added purse races with no buy backs, consolation races, mulligans, dash for cash, etc. This weekend at Bristol they had 2 gamblers races with no doubles and no buy backs. One payed $5000 to win and the other payed $15,000 to win. I think they had 300+ entries in that 5K race and more in the 15. So Tom don't think the no doubles no buy back races aren't around you just got to find them