Per sfg rules once you enter the lanes in a car you are bound to that car for that round. I am good with not taking the tree. He was the bye car and was there to make the bye. But to let him go get another car and essentially make a time hit in the middle of the round is not cool. If he is given the bye after breaking then shows up 7th round in different car then that is per sfg rules. I am good with that. BUt the way it played out does not look good for sfg.

ep

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Originally posted by pauley:
Per sfg rules once you enter the lanes in a car you are bound to that car for that round. I am good with not taking the tree. He was the bye car and was there to make the bye. But to let him go get another car and essentially make a time hit in the middle of the round is not cool. If he is given the bye after breaking then shows up 7th round in different car then that is per sfg rules. I am good with that. BUt the way it played out does not look good for sfg.

ep

It was done at the OG Million about 2-3 years (?) ago.
Dude sitting on the bye made the run in a different car.

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Originally posted by Bucky:
If a car breaks in the burnout on the bye run, how is this handled?

Every track or race can be different. SFG allows you to take the win in the bye round without staging and use another car for the next round.

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Originally posted by Goob:

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Originally posted by pauley:
Per sfg rules once you enter the lanes in a car you are bound to that car for that round. I am good with not taking the tree. He was the bye car and was there to make the bye. But to let him go get another car and essentially make a time hit in the middle of the round is not cool. If he is given the bye after breaking then shows up 7th round in different car then that is per sfg rules. I am good with that. BUt the way it played out does not look good for sfg.

ep

It was done at the OG Million about 2-3 years (?) ago.
Dude sitting on the bye made the run in a different car.

If he didn't arrive in the lanes with the broken one, then no harm no foul. I'm ok with a guy breaking before the buy and showing up in the lanes with the new car for the bye, but what happened Friday is clearly a violation of SFG's rules. He should never have been permitted to go get the new car for the same round he broke in.

But don't some of these promoters just change the rules as they go?
I'm guessing in this situation it would depend on who is "covering" the entry fee.

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Originally posted by Nim Rod:

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Originally posted by Goob:

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Originally posted by pauley:
Per sfg rules once you enter the lanes in a car you are bound to that car for that round. I am good with not taking the tree. He was the bye car and was there to make the bye. But to let him go get another car and essentially make a time hit in the middle of the round is not cool. If he is given the bye after breaking then shows up 7th round in different car then that is per sfg rules. I am good with that. BUt the way it played out does not look good for sfg.

ep

It was done at the OG Million about 2-3 years (?) ago.
Dude sitting on the bye made the run in a different car.

If he didn't arrive in the lanes with the broken one, then no harm no foul. I'm ok with a guy breaking before the buy and showing up in the lanes with the new car for the bye, but what happened Friday is clearly a violation of SFG's rules. He should never have been permitted to go get the new car for the same round he broke in.

i agree nims. sfg rules state that if you enter the lanes in a car that is the car you run that round. if you break you are allowed to come back next round in a different car. which i disagree with but it sfg's rules on that. but you dont let the guy go get another car and make a time hit in it 6th round. come back in new car 7th round with no time hit.

like i said, i am good with not taking the tree on the bye. he was there and attempted the bye but broke. i am good with coming back 7th round in a new car per rules. not the way this went down.

ep-big leagues nimmy. we dont understand i guess.

i say keep it simple start the race in a car. if it breaks then sorry for your luck.

But he would have lost if he had to run someone….so why should it be different that he didn’t run someone…

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like i said, i am good with not taking the tree on the bye. he was there and attempted the bye but broke. i am good with coming back 7th round in a new car per rules. not the way this went down.

Agreed….. especially after watching them spend 5 minutes trying to get the broke car going again while on the track stopped after the BO. Then waiting another 10+ minutes for that racer to return in a different car to take a time run.

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Originally posted by Nim Rod:

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Originally posted by Goob:

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Originally posted by pauley:
Per sfg rules once you enter the lanes in a car you are bound to that car for that round. I am good with not taking the tree. He was the bye car and was there to make the bye. But to let him go get another car and essentially make a time hit in the middle of the round is not cool. If he is given the bye after breaking then shows up 7th round in different car then that is per sfg rules. I am good with that. BUt the way it played out does not look good for sfg.

ep

It was done at the OG Million about 2-3 years (?) ago.
Dude sitting on the bye made the run in a different car.

If he didn't arrive in the lanes with the broken one, then no harm no foul. I'm ok with a guy breaking before the buy and showing up in the lanes with the new car for the bye, but what happened Friday is clearly a violation of SFG's rules. He should never have been permitted to go get the new car for the same round he broke in.

I agree, he could have been advanced to the next round without actually staging, that's fine, then show up in the different car next round, no time shot, or forfeit at that point.

Essentially let them have a time run in the middle of a race, that’s cool

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Originally posted by WHOMPWHOMP:
But he would have lost if he had to run someone….so why should it be different that he didn’t run someone…

Yes he would have lost whomper but since he had the bye he had a single. Sfg can fix this moving forward. Start race in a car, stay in that car like every where else, if it breaks sorry for you and must take the tree under power even on a bye run. Then there is no confusion or conflict.

ep-even nimmy can get this.

Did the guy he had the next round not say anything?

Did anyone leave and say they ain't coming back? Has anyone cancelled their entries for the nest races? Any boycotts like people proposed for Bud Light?
I'll venture a guess that no is the answer.

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Originally posted by Eman:
Did anyone leave and say they ain't coming back? Has anyone cancelled their entries for the nest races? Any boycotts like people proposed for Bud Light?
I'll venture a guess that no is the answer.

I suspect that folks will eventually have enough and will start speaking with their absense at future events if the shananogans continue. Integrity and trust are easy to let slip through your fingers, and very difficult to restore.

But then.....an aweful lot of sheep in this country continue to vote blue.

My bet is the ones that cried the loudest have never nor will ever attend one of theses races irregardless lolol

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Originally posted by 67TSCHEVY2:
My bet is the ones that cried the loudest have never nor will ever attend one of theses races irregardless lolol

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Originally posted by Bucky:
SFG Friday night

Kyle Coltrera breaks during a burnout on the bye run 6th round. Has to be pushed off track. Does not stage or take the tree. He is then allowed to go get into a backup car, and does a full burnout, then backs up and stages and runs the Bye run that he just broke on. The next round is the round of the big Split of the roughly $60,000 of remaining purse money, which he was now a part of.

I think that is dirty and not fair for several reasons. As far as I am concerned when he goes to do the burnout he is committed and if he can not stage he lost that round bye run or not. If he did not want to run, save his car or what ever and rules allow him to pass on Bye Run then I am fine with that. But to do a burn out, break and hold up race for how ever long then go get another car and get a basically free time trial in middle of race and still get bye run into big money sure sounds like cheating to me.

That is one thing that really bothers me is when they change rules or payout after race has started or to favor someone. I do not care if they have buybacks, double entry's or too much about pay out. But if they advertise certain rules and payout they need to follow that on race day.

Big money races should have all the rules clearly stated and strictly followed in my opinion. As for splits, I am fine with that as long as total payout is the same.

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Originally posted by 67TSCHEVY2:
My bet is the ones that cried the loudest have never nor will ever attend one of theses races irregardless lolol

Who is crying?

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Originally posted by Bucky:

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Originally posted by 67TSCHEVY2:
My bet is the ones that cried the loudest have never nor will ever attend one of theses races irregardless lolol

Who is crying?

Anyone that wants a race to be fair evidently.....

C'mon...you get several hundred people together, with a racers mentality, then add in money, there's going to be unhappy people...Always ... Everytime