Its called "freedom of speech". You don't have to like it.

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Amen “Fern” on freedom of speech! I’m going to add my freedom of speech to this topic. We are at a point in this country where it’s “freedom of speech” when the liberal lefty,progressive socialist, pro democratic party supporters spout their opinions; but when a white, constitutional conservative, Christian, Republican Party supporter exercises their “freedom of speech” it’s immediately met with the loud cry of RACISM. That was made a wildly popular reaction by our pro democratic liberal lefty news media to ANYONE who disagreed with ANYTHING our previous president of 8 years said or did. Our prior administration and liberal lefty socialist democrats of today want those who were born white (by no choice of their own by the way) to be ashamed and apologetic for being born white. EVERYONE today should be proud of who they are and the heritage they were born into and the right to express such. NONE of us alive today can change past history as the liberal left wants to do, but we ALL can step up to the plate and learn from the past mistakes in this country and strive to be BETTER than that!!!! And that as Paul Harvey used to gracefully say, “is the rest of the story”!!!

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AMEN brother. Unlike Warren I can prove ny little bit which is still lot more than hers.Math wise only 1/16 or 6.25% compared to what .09%.LOL]

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Originally posted by CURTIS REED:

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Originally posted by wideopen231:
Not a lot me and Boucher Jr. agree on ,but this over pc **** would be one. Every damn thing is racist and everyone is in some way. Not everything is racist and not everyone is. You are using that to justify that you are.
Not lot different calling someone wet back then calling them ******* for them saying it. Just because someone else does something wrong doesn't make what you are doing right. You are doing same thing just with a holier than thou idea of what you are doing is righteous and they are evil. How is me calling you guys out the same thing. I'm not holier than thou but I'm not a racist. Sounds like religion that thinks everyone has to be with them or they a rightfully kill them off,you know the one that is called for by folks hating Americans.

My point is.Read face book post some times.Tons of crap showing American conservative being called everything you can think of. I don't disagree with conservatives being called stuff that they shouldn't be.
Hell racist is **** is what I posted against. Jeb Bush saying we had to show illegals respect. Respect is earned and you disrespecting American laws means you are not owed that. Was point of post,The wet back comment just pointed out who it was.

Wait isn't aliens a racist word?

The one thing that you are right about is that the term racist gets overused. In this case I do believe it is justified to call you out on it. I have sons in law, daughters in law and my wife all that aren't white. I won't stand idly by and see this posted on a site I love and enjoy. Take it to some white supremacist site if you want to be supported for saying that stuff.

Never asked for your support or anybody else. I don't stand idly by while being told I can't speak what ever I want when ever I want. As for being racist hell yea and good at it. Still no different then you calling someone white supremacist because they stand for the white race. Guess Jessie Jackson, al ****on and the rest are black supremacist and AOC is spic supremacist?

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Originally posted by wideopen231:

Never asked for your support or anybody else. I don't stand idly by while being told I can't speak what ever I want when ever I want. I never in any way said you couldn't say it. I'm saying you're wrong to say it.

As for being racist hell yea and good at it.

Still no different then you calling someone white supremacist because they stand for the white race. Guess Jessie Jackson, al ****on and the rest are black supremacist and AOC is spic supremacist? Anyone saying someone isn't as good as someone else based on color is no better.

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Originally posted by ferndaleflyer:
Its called "freedom of speech". You don't have to like it.

But don't complain about the consequences of it, especially when it happens someplace that is privately held. I have never said he doesn't have the right to say it. I said what he is saying is wrong. He can march in the streets and burn crosses if he wants but there are consequences. You guys that want to support and be associated with his viewpoints so be it. I have said my piece and I'm out.

I say once Chris' Facebook ban is up, Ed's DRR ban should also be up. Surely calling someone's race car junk on a racing site isn't as offensive as using using racial slurs and saying those people should be thrown in a hole on Facebook, right?

BRING ED BACK!!! BRING ED BACK!!!!

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ever notice that the people who preach tolerance are the most intolerant among us.


ep-I want Ed back as well. he kept people on their toes.

oh its not up for 28 days.Big difference in speaking about something in general and and personal attacks. While I have debated this here its not been nasty for most part.I for one never called anyone names> Never degraded them for their view except to point out how they where doing same thing they where saying I should not.

I also have not made and threats of violence against anyone here. Now on face book I have said things equal to what was said by other side.

Its not racist part of face book I have problem with. Its that while I enjoy commenting on thigs like muslims in office who came here illegal of underhanded and in turn illegal thing. I don't really like boosting there numbers and being told I can not call someone asking total muslim rule and towel head. The racist stuff is just fun for pissing them off just like them pissing me off with what they say. Try going on face book and say cpl things against left wing socialist and muslim ****. Cpl maybe but you will get jail time.Again no bail,no lawyer and no big deal.Hell funny in a way. Go to your room Johnny you are grounded,hell prison are full of people grounded and that don't work.'

I am not trying to make others agree with me,be nice if they had same curtsy. Believe it or not there are people so stupid they thank running around in circles is racing.LOL

I am out.Not trying to start a big argument which is pointless since they believe what they do and I do also just opposite side of coin.

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Originally posted by CURTIS REED:


That's the dumbest question ever. I get that you're trying to use hyperbole to make a stupid point. I never said it's racist to stop illegals from coming in or saying anything about what they are doing.

The action is illegal and I'm all for stopping them, not letting them in and/or sending them back. I don't care what color or nationality they are. Obviously you do know racist crap when you see it or spout it. If you want to align yourself with it so be it.

I do not think it is "Racist" to say ILLEGAL ALIENS should not be here or be given welfare and Healthcare but if you say that on Facebook you will be banned for 30 days for Hate Speech, ask me how I know..........

What really bothers me is there is pictures depicting decapitating Trump and calling for his assassination and it is allowed under Freedom of Speech. But if you say our Border patrol should protect our borders and stop the invaders you will get banned like I did. That is my problem with it, if you have Freedom of speech it should be for everyone not just Liberals.

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Originally posted by Curly1:

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Originally posted by CURTIS REED:


That's the dumbest question ever. I get that you're trying to use hyperbole to make a stupid point. I never said it's racist to stop illegals from coming in or saying anything about what they are doing.

The action is illegal and I'm all for stopping them, not letting them in and/or sending them back. I don't care what color or nationality they are. Obviously you do know racist crap when you see it or spout it. If you want to align yourself with it so be it.

I do not think it is "Racist" to say ILLEGAL ALIENS should not be here or be given welfare and Healthcare but if you say that on Facebook you will be banned for 30 days for Hate Speech, ask me how I know..........

What really bothers me is there is pictures depicting decapitating Trump and calling for his assassination and it is allowed under Freedom of Speech. But if you say our Border patrol should protect our borders and stop the invaders you will get banned like I did. That is my problem with it, if you have Freedom of speech it should be for everyone not just Liberals.

All true, except when you are in someone else's sand box. Your "rights" are not insured when you go to someone else's party. You can be shown the door. Remember...that's a good thing! When you get some pain the the ass that makes the place miserable, you show them the door. When private organizations started losing those rights is when we started down the slippery slope. Boy scouts are forced to let anyone in now. That isn't right. Forget having an all mens' club. Do you want every forum or online community to be forced to allow everyone talk about everything? You can't kick someone out of DRR when they come here and talk about whatever perversion they are into? Let's keep that jeanie in the bottle for now.

Calling some one a racist USED to mean something horrible and extreme...
Today calling someone racist, is nothing more than a cheap insult on the level of booger-picker.

People have cried "wolf" too many times rendering the word meaningless. Fake moral outrage is all the new rage that everyone wants to be part of.

I have a friend that is highly intelligent and a fantastic debater. FB limits his post simply by not allowing others to see them. Then he'll go weeks and not be able to comment on other's posts. He can see them, and the comment box has a cursor in the box, but nothing goes in. He can go to other devices and as long as he is signed in under his name, no comments can be typed in. He doesn't give them a reason to be banned or put in FB jail, so they limit his exposure.

just saw on the news that in Colorado they say that calling some one American is offensive and leaves people with other origins out.

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Originally posted by Curly1:

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Originally posted by CURTIS REED:


That's the dumbest question ever. I get that you're trying to use hyperbole to make a stupid point. I never said it's racist to stop illegals from coming in or saying anything about what they are doing.

The action is illegal and I'm all for stopping them, not letting them in and/or sending them back. I don't care what color or nationality they are. Obviously you do know racist crap when you see it or spout it. If you want to align yourself with it so be it.

I do not think it is "Racist" to say ILLEGAL ALIENS should not be here or be given welfare and Healthcare but if you say that on Facebook you will be banned for 30 days for Hate Speech, ask me how I know..........

What really bothers me is there is pictures depicting decapitating Trump and calling for his assassination and it is allowed under Freedom of Speech. But if you say our Border patrol should protect our borders and stop the invaders you will get banned like I did. That is my problem with it, if you have Freedom of speech it should be for everyone not just Liberals.

Okay I had to come back for this one post since I was quoted and wrongly replied to. Curly, I never said calling someone an illegal alien is racist. I have no idea how you could have come to that conclusion. Calling someone a wetback is a racist / bigoted comment.


Maybe I should explain why this hit home with me so hard. My son in law is of Mexican decent. His mother was an illegal alien who should never have been here but she was. He was born in America and has never lived anywhere else. He is an American citizen. Is that right? No! But that was and is the law. His mother has since gone back a long time ago and lives in Mexico. That doesn't mean I am sympathetic to illegal aliens coming across the border though just that I don't care for what wide called them.

He and his twin brother have been on their own since they were 17. He is now the Deputy Chief of the Oklahoma City police department. Chris might as well have been calling him that name to his face as well as I am concerned. I can tell you though I'm sure he wouldn't do that. As I said earlier there are members of my family that aren't white so people being bigots may stand out more to me than others and I took it personal. Had he said something that disparaged my wife who is American Indian, and not just a minuscule amount, I would have reacted the same.

The last thing I want to say is that just because I called out someone about a bigoted comment doesn't mean I agree with all the liberal crap that gets posted on Facebook. There is some really stupid nonsense over there. Most of it I don't see though because the people I associate with on there are pretty like minded to me and I try more and more to stay away from that stuff on my wall. It is privately held by a huge liberal though so they are going to do what they do.


Man I need to stay in the tech section.

Curtis

in reading this, I have to wonder....

how many would actually have used the language, or harbored the feelings, a few years ago.

I find, that all the media, works hard at pulling at and separating people all for the sake of "selling" the news. I stopped watching any national news up here and only watch local because I was feeling myself becoming more and more polarized.

just my opinion

There is a way to resolve this issue, as I did.
QUIT Facebook.

The term "racist" is the new go to term for liberal democraps. It's taken the place of "I disagree with your opinion." If you don't share their opinion then you are a racist, plain and simple....That's how demented and far left they have gone....it's now considered racist if you disagree with the left..Ok for them to disagree with you, but not the other way around...

Free speech is gone as well. It's only free speech if the left agrees with it...if they don't, it MUST be censored at all costs. Part of the whole indoctrination deal. Just like the banning of the word American at CSU.....hard for someone to think for themselves and believe in the idea that is America when they are conditioned from a very young age that even the word American is a trigger word, racist word, hate word, and so on.....That is the left....you can agree with me on this or disagree, that is your right, and as a conservative, I'll allow you to voice your opinion without calling you a racist, but that doesn't make you right.....

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Originally posted by Coloradoracer:
The term "racist" is the new go to term for liberal democraps. It's taken the place of "I disagree with your opinion."

you must have seen clips of our Prime Minster then huh? LOL That is his go to thing if anyone publically disagrees with him!