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So Bob Tasca went 341 MPH in 1000 foot setting a new record. A few questions.

1. I wonder if that was in full NHRA rules and regulations? Since it was not a NHRA National even did he run the laid back headers maybe or something else?

2. Will NHRA even recognize or speak of the record?

3. Do you think NHRA will come up with more new restrictions to slow them down?

4. The record he broke was that the old record set by the guy with the red Nova that used to post here? Or was that a different track?


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Because it was not at an NHRA sanctioned event the record will not be recognized by them. But who cares, it's a top notch team that did it and they didn't make extra little changes just to set the record. I was there the conditions were great the track was good and it happened. Lots of other cars were also running big mile per hour. Brockmeyer was there to make sure that there were no inconsistencies with the timing system.

That being said, who broke the 4 second barrier? At what event was it and what sanctioning organization was it?

If you don't know, it wasn't at an NHRA event, yet everyone credits Eddie Hill as the person that broke that barrier at a non-NHRA event and rightly so. This 341 MPH pass is exactly the same thing. So let's give Tasca and BMP credit where credit is due.

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Because it was not at an NHRA sanctioned event the record will not be recognized by them. But who cares, it's a top notch team that did it and they didn't make extra little changes just to set the record. I was there the conditions were great the track was good and it happened. Lots of other cars were also running big mile per hour. Brockmeyer was there to make sure that there were no inconsistencies with the timing system.

That being said, who broke the 4 second barrier? At what event was it and what sanctioning organization was it?

If you don't know, it wasn't at an NHRA event, yet everyone credits Eddie Hill as the person that broke that barrier at a non-NHRA event and rightly so. This 341 MPH pass is exactly the same thing. So let's give Tasca and BMP credit where credit is due.


I'm all for giving him credit, but if it wasn't in NHRA trim, I don't recognize it either. If it was, then sick!


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We will probably never know if it was 100% NHRA legal. That being said in my book he did it. Hell, there could have been 95% nitro in the tank.


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Since fuel cars are all on the rev limiter on the back 1/2 which pulls timing at some point in the run to limit speed, raising the RPM limits a few hundred would be the simplest thing to do.
 
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Because it was not at an NHRA sanctioned event the record will not be recognized by them. But who cares, it's a top notch team that did it and they didn't make extra little changes just to set the record. I was there the conditions were great the track was good and it happened. Lots of other cars were also running big mile per hour. Brockmeyer was there to make sure that there were no inconsistencies with the timing system.

That being said, who broke the 4 second barrier? At what event was it and what sanctioning organization was it?

If you don't know, it wasn't at an NHRA event, yet everyone credits Eddie Hill as the person that broke that barrier at a non-NHRA event and rightly so. This 341 MPH pass is exactly the same thing. So let's give Tasca and BMP credit where credit is due.


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Afew hundred rpm of percent or two extra Nitro would make the mph. As stated NHRA will not recognize it as a record. The whole deal is more or less a way for the teams to get extra testing before the season starts in few weeks.

Still a cool deal.




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Because it was not at an NHRA sanctioned event the record will not be recognized by them. But who cares, it's a top notch team that did it and they didn't make extra little changes just to set the record. I was there the conditions were great the track was good and it happened. Lots of other cars were also running big mile per hour. Brockmeyer was there to make sure that there were no inconsistencies with the timing system.

That being said, who broke the 4 second barrier? At what event was it and what sanctioning organization was it?

If you don't know, it wasn't at an NHRA event, yet everyone credits Eddie Hill as the person that broke that barrier at a non-NHRA event and rightly so. This 341 MPH pass is exactly the same thing. So let's give Tasca and BMP credit where credit is due.


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So who was 3rd to run 4 second? Independent from GA.Hint




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I think it was an impressive run just my question is will NHRA recognize it as such and 2. Was it in legal NHRA trim since it was not NHRA race?

There was a time in the 60's they did not know if it would ever be possible for man to run 200 MPH in the 1/4 mile, they blew past that. Then Burnstien ran 300 and Eddie Hill ran 4.99. Those were huge barriers. To run 341 MPH in 1000 feet is really impressive but I do think the laid back headers or something else could account for a few MPH.


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That being said, who broke the 4 second barrier? At what event was it and what sanctioning organization was it?

If you don't know, it wasn't at an NHRA event, yet everyone credits Eddie Hill as the person that broke that barrier at a non-NHRA event and rightly so. This 341 MPH pass is exactly the same thing. So let's give Tasca and BMP credit where credit is due.


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I had it backwards. Gene was NHRA

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Very good. Not many remember the second or 3rd to do something, only the first.

Just like Doug Herbert was second over 300 and actually ran faster than Berstein.

Well, actually Clayton Harris made the car do it in spite of Holcomb. LOL Have to know some of the back ground stories to understand that one.




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Afew hundred rpm of percent or two extra Nitro would make the mph. As stated NHRA will not recognize it as a record. The whole deal is more or less a way for the teams to get extra testing before the season starts in few weeks.

Still a cool deal.


That's the rub...those teams are all about the NHRA season. I don't see any way in hell they were doing anything outside the ordinary, because it offers them virtually NOTHING in terms of data for runs that actually matter.

but agreed, it was cool to see

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Trying to find exact quote but someone asked Ron Capps about his performance and the new record. He said Some of us were playing by the rules.


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"Legal" or not, still impressive run for sure!!!


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Don't know what Capps is talking about. It wasn't NHRA sanctioned so "what rules"? If you aren't going to point to specifics this just makes you sound petty and jealous. I like Capps but call them on something or say nothing.



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Trying to find exact quote but someone asked Ron Capps about his performance and the new record. He said Some of us were playing by the rules.
Sounds like being butt hurt about not making the field.....


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Trying to find exact quote but someone asked Ron Capps about his performance and the new record. He said Some of us were playing by the rules.
Sounds like being butt hurt about not making the field.....


I can not say I blame him for being upset about not making field. Do not care who you are when you go to race you want to try to win.

As for me being petty and jealous, I really do not care. I can see both sides and just want to know others thoughts on it. Do you throw everything at it to see what it will take rules or not, or do you look at is a test session to make most of it in NHRA legal trim?

Sounds to me like Ron Capps chose to run it in full NHRA legal trim and it sounds like he THINKS others were throwing everything at it?

Which is why I asked the original questions.

Will say this, that is hauling tail no matter how it was done. If it was in full NHRA legal trim that is really impressive.


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As for me being petty and jealous, I really do not care. I can see both sides and just want to know others thoughts on it. Do you throw everything at it to see what it will take rules or not, or do you look at is a test session to make most of it in NHRA legal trim?

Sounds to me like Ron Capps chose to run it in full NHRA legal trim and it sounds like he THINKS others were throwing everything at it?



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