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I'm about to mount up a set of 29x10.5W Hoosiers on a 15x10" wheel. I've run screws and tubes previously but would like to run w/o the tubes now. Lots of conflicting information out there and I suspect I'll get some conflicting answers in here but what say you?

Car is ~3100 pounds with me in it. 540 BBC and runs 5.95-6.00's with some problems I'm working through.
 
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I'm about to mount up a set of 29x10.5W Hoosiers on a 15x10" wheel. I've run screws and tubes previously but would like to run w/o the tubes now. Lots of conflicting information out there and I suspect I'll get some conflicting answers in here but what say you?


Bias slicks definitely *use tubes* with baby powder so the tube isn't pinched - torn.

Use screws.
 
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Rims screws or no?

NO

I've never run rim screws in over 30 years and been far faster, 1.03 60 foot in my dragster and 1.17 60 foot in my door car.

No to tubes as well.

 
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Big tires I might not run tubes or screws

Small tires take a beating (It's all high speed dampening).

Look at the tire as if it's a shock absorber (damper)
 
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If your rims are ruined by already having screw holes then go for it.
If they don't then HELL NO!!!
 
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All ya do to not strip out the screw holes ("ruin rims"), is use new screws every other tire change, and don't use an electric/battery impact to install the screws.

Other than that, they'll never develop stripped screw holes.

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I vote for no screws.


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I'm taking into account the OP's previous thread about too much wheel speed.

Non stiff sidewall Hoosier.

If you wanna lose wheel speed , add pressure and stiff sidewall.

If you want a stiffer sidewall add a tube.

If you add a tube, you either need screws or beadlocks.

Connecting the dots

Do I need wheel screws? - I dunno,,,, Depends on what you're doing, depends on the task.
 
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With the right size tire and wheel and right air pressure it should not move.
I do not like to put screws in my nice rims.
What you can do and it helps is to use the Red Permatex gasket sealer when you mount the wheel. It dries and makes tire stick good. Many around here use it and it helps.


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I'm about to mount up a set of 29x10.5W Hoosiers on a 15x10" wheel. I've run screws and tubes previously but would like to run w/o the tubes now. Lots of conflicting information out there and I suspect I'll get some conflicting answers in here but what say you?

Car is ~3100 pounds with me in it. 540 BBC and runs 5.95-6.00's with some problems I'm working through.


No tubes or no stiff sidewalls = limited sidewall life.

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I know we're talking about screws here BUT

But I remember an interview of a Pro Stock driver (Maybe Warren Johnson), who said the beadlock rule was only put into place for 200 MPH + debeading of the tire during growth.

The point was he said there was no need for beadlocks to hold the tire on pro stock at the starting line back then, which is one of the most violently leaving vehicles around.
 
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Correct.

There is no rule requiring screws no mind beadlocks on our cars. 99.9% of the bracket cars that have beadlocks don’t need them, they are nothing more than bling including on my cars.
 
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I will admit that when you're changing your own tires the bead locks make it way easier though
 
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I run the same tire on the same size rim with no screws and no tubes. My car weighs 3,000 with me but it's slower. Run enough air pressure and you should have no problem.
 
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Hoosiers don't need tubes.

I've run that wheel tire combo without screws. I normally run the 29x10 D06 on my car without screws.


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Thanks for your input everyone. Much appreciated.
 
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Beadlock rims make tire changing very easy and is main reason I had my rims converted. It takes me longer changing tires because I clean the ring surfaces, bolt threads, blow out threaded holes and lube bolts reassembling. I don’t have the concertina type rims like Ed has, but wear mechanic gloves much of the time when changing. I can pull the rim out of the center of the tire in 30 seconds…same going in.
 
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