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| Without screws on my S10 the tire would move about 1" to 1-1/2" in a 7 to 8 run day. They needed balanced every other week. I put screws in, 10 per side, and have never had an issue. Screws were a lot cheaper than beadlocks and accomplished the same thing on a smaller budget. Jok |
| Posts: 1245 | Location: Janesville, IA | Registered: December 21, 2004 |
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| I put beadlocks on my current car because the old wheels were trashed from screws, I wanted beadlocks, and it makes changing tires so much easier. When I raced my Nova back in North Carolina, I didn't originally run screws, but I was running tubes. Just a slow 6.7xx 1/8 mile car, but every pass the tires moved on the wheels...screws stopped that... Honestly, if it was that much of a concern for me, I'd run it and see what it does. It's likely they might move a little at first, then stop. If that's the case, you're good. If not, then I'd sell the wheels and do beadlocks instead. But that's just me. Mark Goulette Owner/Driver of the Livin' The Dream Racing dragster www.livinthedreamracing.com"Speed kills but it's better than going slow!" Authorized Amsoil Retailer |
| Posts: 1568 | Location: Back home in Alaska! | Registered: February 13, 2011 |
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| quote: Originally posted by Toad1: Without screws on my S10 the tire would move about 1" to 1-1/2" in a 7 to 8 run day. They needed balanced every other week.
Did you every try switching the tires side to side and see if they went back to original position? |
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| quote: Originally posted by Toad1: Without screws on my S10 the tire would move about 1" to 1-1/2" in a 7 to 8 run day. They needed balanced every other week. Jok
You mount them dry and they don’t move. Hit my tires with a whole lot more power than you and the OP. Further, it’s the year 2023, no one runs tubes that has a clue. Most bracket racers haven’t run tubes in 30 years. |
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| quote: it’s the year 2023, no one runs tubes that has a clue. Most bracket racers haven’t run tubes in 30 years.
Here’s one disadvantage using tubes. If you pick up a screw, nail, or other pointed object in the tire, you’re forced to remove the tire to repair. This is something that happens more frequently than one might be aware of. If you carry an inexpensive tire plug kit you can be back on the track in minutes. I’ve plugged a rear and a front tire for other racers in the staging lanes. I’ve found screws 2X in my rear tires the past 15 yrs, plugged them, and ran them the duration without problems. I keep one of these tire kits and a 12v air pump in my truck just in-case. |
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| I’ve been doing this on my tires and friends for decades and I’ve done it in the lanes. Get a puncture in slicks with tubes and you’re done for the day. |
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| markemark, I did rotate them a couple times and they moved about the same mount the other way. I am not going to go to the work to rotate slicks every weekend to keep them balanced, too old for that ;-) I did mount them dry, didn't seem to help. Thinking back I should have roughed up the bead area of the wheel with an air chisel to make a "serrated area". Screws are in, no problems since. As for rotating tires??? I have a new way of doing that, I rotate them when some grain starts to show, been about 60-70 runs last summer. Not sure it is even necessary, old habit I think. |
| Posts: 1245 | Location: Janesville, IA | Registered: December 21, 2004 |
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| I’ve mounted my slicks dry for 20 years, never “roughed up” the bead, just clean with acetone. Never moved and I never rotate my slicks . |
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| quote: Originally posted by Toad1: markemark, I did rotate them a couple times and they moved about the same mount the other way. I am not going to go to the work to rotate slicks every weekend to keep them balanced, too old for that ;-) I did mount them dry, didn't seem to help. Thinking back I should have roughed up the bead area of the wheel with an air chisel to make a "serrated area". Screws are in, no problems since. As for rotating tires??? I have a new way of doing that, I rotate them when some grain starts to show, been about 60-70 runs last summer. Not sure it is even necessary, old habit I think.
You do not want slicks to move. They do need to be clean before you mount them and that Red Permatex Sealant seems to work good. A lot of people around here use it. Put a little on the bead when you mount tire it dries quickly and works. I did not want to put screws in my nice wheels and Permatex fixed it for me. But if you slicks are moving you going to have to do something whether it is trying the red Permatex stuff or wheel screws. https://postimg.cc/gallery/np3zpruo/"Dunning-Kruger Effect" -a type of Cognitive bias where people with little expertise or ability assume they have superior expertise or ability. This overestimation occurs as a result of the fact that they do not have enough knowledge to know they don't have enough knowledge. Before you argue with someone ask yourself, "Is this person mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of a different perspective?" If not there is no point to argue. 4X NE2 CHAMPION. 2020 TDRA NE2 Champion |
| Posts: 4370 | Location: United States of Texas | Registered: April 02, 2011 |
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| Again, NOTHING is required to keep the tires from moving on the rim without screws except to clean both the wheel and tire’s bead with acetone and mount them DRY. |
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| Cleaning the rims before mounting the new slicks makes a difference. I did have a set that moved on the rims and broke them down, cleaned real good and sprayed some hair spray on the bead before seating. They never moved again. For $1 it's cheap insurance and it's no mess like permatex or some of the other fixes. |
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| I think the moral of this story is: If you run tubes, you need rim screws. If you do not run tubes, rim screws are optional but certainly not required. Just clean the rim and mount slicks dry. I will add, if you run Hoosiers, no soap is needed on the inside of the tire. Just fire them on clean rims, air up and go racing.
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| Posts: 794 | Location: Hanover, MD | Registered: June 20, 2016 |
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