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July 31, 2019, 10:36 PM
Tom396
RULES
quote:
Originally posted by Eman:
What brand are those sneakers?


See the big N? They are obviously New Ballast. Take care. Tom Worthington


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August 01, 2019, 12:43 AM
BP758
He’s using the left hand on the “park brake” release.. Laughing Hard


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August 01, 2019, 05:29 AM
fuzzy dice
I footbraked for 17 years...I now leave off the button when I race Pro in the NHRA and No Box in the IHRA...I have one button on my steering wheel...when I go up on the two step the world can hear my motor clanging...there is no chance whatsoever anyone within a 1000' can miss it...just sayin...having said that, I do have the button on a quick disconnect...it does not remove it from the wheel but it might as well...
August 01, 2019, 06:18 AM
chasracer
quote:
Originally posted by Michael Beard:


Nice string but it doesn't have a thing to do with what John was writing about. With today's gadgetry, a button on the wheel or not means very little. My 2nd and 3rd hits at WFC were .001 and .002 in a car that I had never driven in competition before but I couldn't maintain it. With the right mix of parts, that might have been different. Big money, whether at cards, dice or drag racing is going to bring cheaters.
August 01, 2019, 08:00 AM
442OLDS
Deep staging is an advantage because it removes some of the variables to allow you to be more consistant.
August 01, 2019, 11:17 AM
Bucky
quote:
Originally posted by 442OLDS:
Deep staging is an advantage because it removes some of the variables to allow you to be more consistant.


How is that different than shallow staging?


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August 01, 2019, 12:07 PM
moparacer
quote:
Originally posted by Bucky:
quote:
Originally posted by 442OLDS:
Deep staging is an advantage because it removes some of the variables to allow you to be more consistant.


How is that different than shallow staging?


It tightens your RT window up. And depending on the setup you can leave at a dead idle. A few years back I decided to try deep staging my 11 second Barracuda and immediately wished I had been doing it for 30 years.

Problem with deep staging is if it is not honored and you try to get in early to go deep there are guys that will hang you out to dry and play games on the starting line.

If it werent for that I would do it in every car I drive.
August 01, 2019, 12:17 PM
moparacer
quote:
Originally posted by fuzzy dice:
I footbraked for 17 years...I now leave off the button when I race Pro in the NHRA and No Box in the IHRA...I have one button on my steering wheel...when I go up on the two step the world can hear my motor clanging...there is no chance whatsoever anyone within a 1000' can miss it...just sayin...having said that, I do have the button on a quick disconnect...it does not remove it from the wheel but it might as well...


I always felt too that footbraking at least kept everyone honest since it was a dead give away on the line if you left with a step and brake.

Now that we in Division 1 NHRA have to put up with footbraking being changed to No Box, you cant go by that anymore. And to top it off you have guys running box and no box at events and don't remove the box for no box. Oh yea, we trust you lol.....

I went to great pains with my box setup by hooking it to a trailer plug and making it so everything comes out with 1 bolt because of that.
August 01, 2019, 12:51 PM
markemark
quote:
Originally posted by moparacer:
I went to great pains with my box setup by hooking it to a trailer plug and making it so everything comes out with 1 bolt because of that.


As it should be, Nice!! My box is a plug in / out as well.
August 01, 2019, 01:43 PM
SlyFox
quote:
Originally posted by Bucky:
quote:
Originally posted by 442OLDS:
Deep staging is an advantage because it removes some of the variables to allow you to be more consistant.


How is that different than shallow staging?


Assuming the two beams aren't always the same distance apart track-to-track, deep-staging will be more consistent because roll-out distance across the two beams is taken out of play. The only beam-related variable with deep-staging is how high (or low) the beam is, I suppose,


Mike
August 01, 2019, 01:46 PM
CURTIS REED
quote:
Originally posted by SlyFox:
quote:
Originally posted by Bucky:
quote:
Originally posted by 442OLDS:
Deep staging is an advantage because it removes some of the variables to allow you to be more consistant.


How is that different than shallow staging?


Assuming the two beams aren't always the same distance apart track-to-track, deep-staging will be more consistent because roll-out distance across the two beams is taken out of play. The only beam-related variable with deep-staging is how high (or low) the beam is, I suppose,


Wouldn't there still be the same variation of the top light going out putting you in a different depth if the roll out was different?



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August 01, 2019, 01:46 PM
SlyFox
quote:
Originally posted by Michael Beard:


Round 7, you were bad late, what the heck, were you busy changing the radio station or something? Smile

I would have been thrilled to be .026 every round.....


Mike
August 01, 2019, 01:48 PM
SlyFox
quote:
Originally posted by CURTIS REED:
quote:
Originally posted by SlyFox:
quote:
Originally posted by Bucky:
quote:
Originally posted by 442OLDS:
Deep staging is an advantage because it removes some of the variables to allow you to be more consistant.


How is that different than shallow staging?


Assuming the two beams aren't always the same distance apart track-to-track, deep-staging will be more consistent because roll-out distance across the two beams is taken out of play. The only beam-related variable with deep-staging is how high (or low) the beam is, I suppose,


Wouldn't there still be the same variation of the top light going out putting you in a different depth if the roll out was different?


I think you're right. I don't deep stage, every time I ever tried it, I go bad red. But after thinking about it, you are obviously correct.


Mike
August 01, 2019, 04:45 PM
Michael Beard
quote:
Originally posted by 442OLDS:
Deep staging is an advantage because it removes some of the variables to allow you to be more consistant.


False.

quote:
Originally posted by SlyFox:
Assuming the two beams aren't always the same distance apart track-to-track, deep-staging will be more consistent because roll-out distance across the two beams is taken out of play. The only beam-related variable with deep-staging is how high (or low) the beam is, I suppose,


False. It is exactly the opposite. Deep rollout is determined by the distance between the pre-stage and stage beams. Shallow rollout is determined by the HEIGHT of the Stage beam.

I've encountered instances where the rollout was .030 different lane to lane for shallow, and I've encountered instances where the rollout was .030 different lane to lane for Deep. Slight variations can become major differences depending on HOW your front tire exits the beams.


Yes, the old shoes were New Balance. Currently have Asics, but I'm planning to go back to New Balance when I wear these out.


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August 01, 2019, 06:03 PM
J178RED
Never been a foot break guy. So Michael could you explain the emergency break on the floor ???


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August 01, 2019, 07:32 PM
Michael Beard
quote:
Originally posted by J178RED:
Never been a foot break guy. So Michael could you explain the emergency break on the floor ???


There is no emergency brake. That lever is not hooked to anything.


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August 01, 2019, 07:34 PM
Michael Beard
quote:
Originally posted by SlyFox:
quote:
Originally posted by Michael Beard:


Round 7, you were bad late, what the heck, were you busy changing the radio station or something? Smile

I would have been thrilled to be .026 every round.....


Didn't think I hit that .002 that hard. It was getting darker out. Just gunshy.


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August 01, 2019, 08:01 PM
J178RED
quote:
Originally posted by Michael Beard:
quote:
Originally posted by J178RED:
Never been a foot break guy. So Michael could you explain the emergency break on the floor ???


There is no emergency brake. That lever is not hooked to anything.


LOL thanks, had to ask....haha


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August 01, 2019, 09:37 PM
Hotrod Corvette
quote:
Originally posted by Michael Beard:
quote:
Originally posted by J178RED:
Never been a foot break guy. So Michael could you explain the emergency break on the floor ???


There is no emergency brake. That lever is not hooked to anything.


Ahhhh so we are lead to believe... Laughing Hard


Burt

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