"And naturally as I’ve said so many times before, you have to make up your mind as to what you want to race for; money, trophy, friends, etc."

https://dragracingedge.com/the-blog/the-purse/

This article surly puts the: "NHRA has nothing to offer" statement I use with regularity into a real comparison. Not much to think about where I will go race.

JMO

Thanks John for all you do sir! I for one enjoy reading your unbiased write ups!

When, and where I began racing (Lancaster and York, Pa.) there was no purse, we simply raced for the fun of racing each other, sixty years later I still don't care about the purse. I do wish the entry fee was reasonable, if it was I would attend more NHRA events.

I've never done this to earn a living, if I had I would have starved to death a long time ago.

Bob

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Bob, we all have choices right! I dont do this for a living either. But to hell with a guy running NHRA making nearly a million dollars while they cut the purses to the racers. I refuse to support that...choices right?

They suck b a l l s and feed the racers fish heads.

Just an observation and opinion...many may or may not agree.

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Originally posted by TORQIN:
Bob, we all have choices right!

Just an observation and opinion...many may or may not agree.

Your 100% correct, racers have choices and there is no shortage of willing participants at both NHRA events and big money bracket races.

You guys are absolutely right and I respect your choice. As I said I wish their entry fees and Executive salaries were more reasonable. I love to race but my restricted budget (lotsa kids, Grandkids, etc.) controls my choices.

During last weeks LODRS race at Vegas I was impressed with the ages of the competitors. With a few exceptions they were not what I consider kids. When I started racing everyone was young, not any more. The NHRA with their four and five day events could well be running out of customers by virtue of age, business and Family obligations.

Bob

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Originally posted by Big Steve:
Your 100% correct, racers have choices and there is no shortage of willing participants at both NHRA events and big money bracket races.

EXACTLY and 90% of those complaining about payout ain't ever going to win any of these events.

Me, for the most part, I like NHRA events...professional, safe, organized, rules everyone has to play by and you know what to expect and what you're getting. Kind of like getting McDonalds instead of a sandwich at the local deli near the track and for me and thousands like me, winning a Wally is what it's all about, not the $.

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Originally posted by RPROGAS:
During last weeks LODRS race at Vegas I was impressed with the ages of the competitors. With a few exceptions they were not what I consider kids. When I started racing everyone was young, not any more. The NHRA with their four and five day events could well be running out of customers by virtue of age, business and Family obligations.

Bob

They are. The median age of NHRA Sportsman racers must be near 60. When we die so does the NHRA and quite possibly all of drag racing/bracket racing.

Until the NHRA changes its business model to attract new blood and newer import racers they are only rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. What iceberg?

I find it very funny that you guys worry so much about how much someone makes. Remember, if Cromwell worked in the real world as a ceo he would be making a whole lot more money

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Originally posted by I.P. Dailey:
I find it very funny that you guys worry so much about how much someone makes. Remember, if Cromwell worked in the real world as a ceo he would be making a whole lot more money

Not at another non profit organization.

Coming to a location soon...

NHRA. Nope

NSSRA. National Social Security Racing Association. YEP. for us old ***

Nevermind

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I can't believe I am defending the NHRA payout because it is pretty bad,but for a $330 entry fee for a National event,I have been fortunate enough to go a few rounds many times and get $300 back.

When you compare that to bracket racing with buybacks,sometimes you have to go quite a few rounds to have any chance of getting your entry money back.

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Originally posted by 442OLDS:
I can't believe I am defending the NHRA payout because it is pretty bad,but for a $330 entry fee for a National event,I have been fortunate enough to go a few rounds many times and get $300 back.

When you compare that to bracket racing with buybacks,sometimes you have to go quite a few rounds to have any chance of getting your entry money back.

Spot on. I raced NHRA this year and won enough to cover all my entries and fuel and I didn’t even have that great of a year. If I had this kind of year and was racing 9-10 round races with huge entry fees I’d be hurting.

Ed nailed a lot of the reasons I enjoy NHRA as well. No one does it to get rich but I had a blast this year even considering all the covid restrictions. Sure do feel bad for the pro teams though.

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Originally posted by I.P. Dailey:
I find it very funny that you guys worry so much about how much someone makes. Remember, if Cromwell worked in the real world as a ceo he would be making a whole lot more money

Normally I don't care in the least. However, when I am paying his salary, I care. I don't see this guy going out and making this at any other organization with his credentials/success record.

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Originally posted by RPROGAS:
You guys are absolutely right and I respect your choice. As I said I wish their entry fees and Executive salaries were more reasonable. I love to race but my restricted budget (lotsa kids, Grandkids, etc.) controls my choices.

During last weeks LODRS race at Vegas I was impressed with the ages of the competitors. With a few exceptions they were not what I consider kids. When I started racing everyone was young, not any more. The NHRA with their four and five day events could well be running out of customers by virtue of age, business and Family obligations.

Bob

The structure of these races often dictate this. National events for instance, mean each race costs you either 4 vacation days or 4 days away from your business as a rule. How many of us that are working or running a business can justify that? I gotta save some vacation back to use for Momma and I to catch up at some point.

I'm not defending big money racing by any means. Travel, big entry fees, big odds, long days....not the easiest to do weekend after weekend either. Yet the popularity of it has hurt grassroots, local drag racing. There are only so many racers and so many racers' dollars to go around.

This article puts it out there. The payout is really not much considering the entry fees.
And the Insurance Fee? What the heck is that all about? What are you getting for that money?

"The purse" I race for a few reasons, but the purse sure isn't one of them. If I wanted to be a high stakes gambler, I'd go to a casino. I prefer going down a dragstrip...for the sheer enjoyment of it. Take care. Tom Worthington

Since the subject of this topic is "The Purse".

I've been doing this for a very long time and I have watched it go from a strictly grass roots "Saturday Night" sport to one where it can be very expensive. Money Racing/ AKA Gambling has bankrupt more than one Family and it will do so in the future, just not mine. My Family comes first. Even today there are instances where a guy with the Family sedan shows up at a Bracket Race, cleans everyone clock and takes home a bucket of money. It happens. Good for him/her, my congratulations for either having a lot of luck or having a great day driving. My world is not complicated, I like to just race for the pure enjoyment of competing if that's not your cup of tea that's great also .

On the subject of NHRA.

Where I live there is no choice about driving or racing my car at a NHRA facility, there is no option, zero to none. We don't have a IHRA, AHRA or any other *HRA, just NHRA. If I want to run my car at a legal facility the choice is simple, it will be at a Sanctioned NHRA track, period. Corporate/Executive salaries are not part of any conversation.

Bob

If big money racing is gambling, could bracket racing can be considered the gateway drug to Big money racing?

Heads up racing seems like gambling, some make the choice to do so with little success at the wallet wars. Even though it's what they prefer.

If you want to race with the least at risk there are options...JUST NO PURSE.

Its my choice not to support an organization that is non profit and pays jackwads nearly a million dollars a year to be jack a s s es to their patrons...again we all can and will take many things into consideration before deciding to support an organization.

You dont have to do this a long time to make a reasonable informed decision, choosing wisely can/will effect your experience IMHO.

No matter your choices have a good time and if you enjoy...support it!