Good morning..
So I am in planning stages for a Race Shop. 30 wide 40 deep, 12' walls main shop, 12' tall x 12' wide leans on both sides, I can close in later for more shop if needed. Question, have any of you insulated and put up sheetrock to steel? Pretty sure fir strip is needed..? Need some ideas please.
I can move this post to Tech if needed Scott.

Thanks Guys!
BP

We built a 30x60 3-4 years ago 6x6 post frame with metal on outside then had spray foam 4-5 inch thick sprayed on walls only. Then put up purlins and attached 29ga white steel to purlins. We also attached strips to bottom of trusses and put metal ceiling up and blew 12 inches of fiberglass on top of that. It is very well sealed and only cost about 5-6k for metal, insulation and wood for strips and purlins.
And I didn't have to paint anything. It has been very cost effective to heat and cool.

Barry are we talking about sheet metal studs that are 2x4s or you taking about some thing else?

If your talking sheet metal studs look here...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABGd6B0v9go

We live at an airport in Texas. Most of the hangers, including ours are steel frame with a chicken wire wrap and insulation between the wire and the exterior sheet metal.

There is a neighborhood next to us with many homes building shops, most are doing the same thing.

As far as the inner structure, most are doing somewhat of free standing walls, built like a house. That may seem like a double up, but it is the trend around here.

Our building is over 15 years old and the plastic lining on the insulation has held up very well and is still relatively clean.

One thing I suggest is build the walls as tall as possible, it gives you some extra room for either taller ceilings in your shop area or a place for storage above.

One common mistake I notice on the neighborhood buildings around us is many are not doing a big door that works for big trailer or motorhome. They are also building them in weird locations for backing in. As racers, we see this as we need to get in and out with sometimes bigger rigs than most. It also adds resale value in most cases.

Studs are 2x2 thick metal 48” centers. I will fir out for Sheetrock and I like the blow in foam insulation! Cool!

Thanks Nick, Mike and Mopdrag! Great ideas and yeah , plan well. I have tons of room!

Barry that sounds like a very heavy duty build, the termites not going to do much damage on that structure.

I like steel inside. But hanging stuff on steel isn't friendly. I went up 8" with 3/4" cdx painted gloss and then 7' up from there with steel. I don't have all of it done yet. But it seems to be a great combo. Hang just about anything on the plywood.

On mine right now I am leaning toward having the foam sprayed in there and just painting it high gloss white.

I agree on the suggestion to paint the interior surfaces white, (including the ceiling) that will reflect the light. Use LED lighting with reflectors to reduce the electric bill (fewer fixtures) while at the same time increasing the effectiveness of the lighting.

There is a formula for the most effective lighting output that takes into account the fixture density, fixture height, location, spacing and type. Most Companies that manufacture reflectors can provide you with that information/Formula. Your “working height” is a key factor when discussing reflectors, 36 inches high or whatever is your bench surface height.

Bob


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Originally posted by Curly1:
On mine right now I am leaning toward having the foam sprayed in there and just painting it high gloss white.

That is what I did. You will be very happy with it.

Thanks guys!
I am fortunate we bought with Solar too. PGE owes Me!
Please keep the ideas and what works for you coming.
Again, thank you.
BP

On the barndominuim I am building I plan on getting 2 of the taller 40 foot storage containers. I will put them end to end with a 20 foot covered patio in between them. That will be 100 foot long and then right beside it will be a 16 foot wide car port the whole 100 feet for my truck and trailer. The shop will be 40 by 100. Then the house portion and a ranch style porch on West side. One of the storage containers will eventually be a paint booth.
I have some of the tall shelving units for inside the shop that go almost up to ceiling. The bottom shelf will be about 6'4" or so and my work benches will be under them with heavy storage up above. Shelving will also be gloss white and the floor will be a light gloss light Grey. LED lights inside. I found a great location with a good view and it is close to the city but no houses close by and no city restrictions. Close by street but my house will have long driveway and house can not be seen from the street. So everything will be safe and secure.
Here in Texas the big problem is the terrible heat. To combat that I am going to have a decent sized fan facing in on south side and facing out on North side. Late at night the fans will come on to draw all of the heat out then close early in the AM. I will have the foam insulation sprayed in and painted white.
When you design it right it should be fairly cool, well light up and low energy cost.

I used 3 of these fans in my shop
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Ha...trol-52860/204507386

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Pretty simple and not costly. Thanks Mop!

I would go with a 16 ft ceiling and a 14ft door that way in the future you can put a motor-home or stacker trailer in it, mines a 14ft tall with a 12ft door and i really wish I went 2ft taller just food for thought.

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Originally posted by seabass:

Trust me! AC/Heatpump for sure! My last shop had a 5k unit.

I put a ductless mini split 3 ton heatpump in.
I got mine from acwholesalers.com cost about $2200 and about $500 to get some professional help to get it installed and started up correctly. I can't believe how efficient it is even in the OK. heat. Last month kept 30x60 shop at 79 and 1880 sq ft house at 74 and elec. bill was $254.
Before shop elec bill would have been probably 180ish.

I just built my third home shop in the last 25 years. In all of them I have gone up 8' with 3/4" plywood, which I painted gloss white. It makes it extremely easy to hang/attach things to.

I then go from 8' up with white metal and install a white metal ceiling. This allows for a lot of light reflection and a brighter area.

I would insulate as much as you can. I used R21 bats in the walls and R38 blown in the ceiling.

The previous shops, I have used old house oil furnaces and put whole house sucker fans in the ceiling to help pull the heat out in the summer. The latest shop, I still put the sucker fans in, but also put three 3 ton mini-split units in and could not be happier. I keep them set for 48* in the winter to keep things from freezing and 78* in the summer to keep the humidity down. If I am going in the shop to work, I use the mobile app to turn it down to 74-75* to make it more comfortable to work in.