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Because this comes up often and gets some discussion, I recently was looking at this site and thought others might appreciate it. Others could be added in replies.

https://usamade1.com/usamadestore.html



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It's hard to find racecar parts (anything for that matter) made in the USA.

Assembled in the USA using parts from overseas, I believe that is more common.


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It's hard to find racecar parts (anything for that matter) made in the USA.

Assembled in the USA using parts from overseas, I believe that is more common.


Hard yes I agree but worth looking into.



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This topic will be a **** show now.
I'm not a fan of Ed but! I don't post replies to bicker back and make it an attack.

That's exactly what BKing did. You wanted drama and ruined a post in the first reply.

Here's a US clothing company

https://www.allamericanclothin...ollections/outerwear

PS This site isn't about engaging Ed unless Scott changed the rules.
Carry on.



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This topic will be a **** show now.
I'm not a fan of Ed but! I don't post replies to bicker back and make it an attack.

That's exactly what BKing did. You wanted drama and ruined a post in the first reply.

Here's a US clothing company

https://www.allamericanclothin...ollections/outerwear

PS This site isn't about engaging Ed unless Scott changed the rules.
Carry on.


You are correct!

2BKING would gladly play by the DRR rules, but some don't including me!

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Originally posted by M120:
This topic will be a **** show now.
I'm not a fan of Ed but! I don't post replies to bicker back and make it an attack.

That's exactly what BKing did. You wanted drama and ruined a post in the first reply.

Here's a US clothing company

https://www.allamericanclothin...ollections/outerwear

PS This site isn't about engaging Ed unless Scott changed the rules.
Carry on.


Truth.

I have purchased some shirts from that company before.



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Originally posted by M120:
This topic will be a **** show now.
I'm not a fan of Ed but! I don't post replies to bicker back and make it an attack.

That's exactly what BKing did. You wanted drama and ruined a post in the first reply.

Here's a US clothing company

https://www.allamericanclothin...ollections/outerwear

PS This site isn't about engaging Ed unless Scott changed the rules.
Carry on.


I like the link at the bottom of the website. 100 American companies that sell USA products.

https://www.allamericanclothin...ll-usa-made-products


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That's cool Tom, I didn't even see that.



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It's hard to find racecar parts (anything for that matter) made in the USA.

Assembled in the USA using parts from overseas, I believe that is more common.


I saw a Trump speech couple days ago, he's actually saying if he's elected, there will be tariffs on chinese inputs.

What are chinese inputs most Americans may ask... Inputs are everything at Walmart made in china, as example.

It'll never happen, all the jobs would flood back to America, and America would be a wealthy republic as the founders intended it to be, Sovereign wealthy republic.

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I have mentioned this before. Most people do not know it or do not care until it is too late.
In 1994 President Bill Clinton forced Congress to give China "Most Favored Trade Status" prior to that China did not sell much at all and was basically a Third World Country. In fact China just did not do much with any other Countries.

Now China has far surpassed us in so many ways.
Why? Because our TAX system gives them a free ride on the backs of Tax paying Americans.
When you build anything in America the Corporations get taxed. They have to follow OSHA, EPA, Workmans Comp and all kinds of other rules which add to the cost of doing business.
Then the employees pay income tax and Company has to match portions of that tax further adding to cost.

So by the time it is "Made in America" there is over 50% tax penalty added in to cost of goods.

By something from China. NO TAXES AND THEY HAVE VERY LITTLE REGULATIONS. You may have some shipping in there but with a little lower employee payroll (For now) it is much cheaper to build it in China. Which is another thing, most people think and repeat lies they know nothing about saying they pay those people with a pound of rice a week or something stupid like that. No, they make good money and they are doing good quality work. Look outside factories there and you see mostly BMW, Mecedes, Audi and Cadillac. Look outside factory here and you see much cheaper cars. If you think China can not do good quality work and they are not paying those people much you are wrong. America has made it clear to China we want good quality and are willing to pay for it.

Illegal Aliens, Topless dancers, drug dealers are not paying ANY Income Taxes.

If we did not have the HUGE tax ripoff from our Government or it was shared between all and not just working class then America can compete and win. That is the problem, our Taxes or feeding greedy Big Brother.
What is the Solution? On paper it sounds like we should drop Federal Income Tax and go to a point of sale tax. Where when you buy anything you pay taxes on it and does not matter if you are working straight cash like a drug dealer or in a factory or rich you still paying taxes.
That sounds good but reality is we have a Government with spending out of control and we can not afford them and if we changed the Tax System now I think that they would just use opportunity to screw us harder and deeper.


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I hope I live long enough to see wide spread manufacturing return to the USA.



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Now China has far surpassed us in so many ways.
Why?


How do you believe that they have FAR surpassed us? I have to say that I wholly disagree with that also. Everything they produce has been copies and couldn’t have even happened without us.



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Now China has far surpassed us in so many ways.
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How do you believe that they have FAR surpassed us? I have to say that I wholly disagree with that also. Everything they produce has been copies and couldn’t have even happened without us.


Yes many of the ideas come from here, because USA is where the target market is.
But China can copy and put into production in weeks what takes us here nearly a year to do. And they can produce at a fraction of the cost that we do here. For many reasons.


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Many of the ideas are now coming from China. When you are the ones building it you learn better ways to do it, more efficient and at lower cost.

China is working hard to be the leader in quality and innovation whether you want to believe it or not. They have went from just copying us to coming up with next new innovation.

For those of you who do not believe it look at your own phone, your computer and even cars you drive. The heads and blocks, cranks, rods on most all factory cars are made in China now. Plus the computer systems that run those cars.

In the 1960's if you had a car that lasted 100,000 miles it was a good one. Now we do not even give them a tune up until 100,000 miles and we expect them to last 200, 300 or more. There are many reasons why cars last so much better now but fact is they last better, they are quieter, stop better, faster, better mileage and do not require as much work to maintain. Even things like front ends, brakes and tires are much better and last longer. Another fact is many of those things are made in China now.

Do not like it? I do not but that is the way it is and you need to understand the problem before you can fix it.

I have been around the World many times and in the past everyone looked at America as the leader of the World and our President was the President of the World. I noticed a big change in the respect we got from other Countries when Obama was elected. The whole World knew he was elected because of color and not qualifications.
Everyone around the World I worked with like Trump and those same people have said Biden is an idiot and they know he was put in place by voter fraud. That makes us the laughing stock of the World and makes China more powerful when the World knows we can not have honest election here but we want to stick our noses in their elections or tell them how to run their Country? There are people here who will not admit or believe there was voter fraud but they sure know it around rest of the World where they have free press and not Democrat owned media.
That is coming from people I deal with in Germany, China, Canada, Italy, France and Australia and more. And when I am dealing for Foreign Countries I do not mention Politics. Those comments were from them on their own so I have a pretty good idea what the rest of the World thinks about us.


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Now China has far surpassed us in so many ways.
Why?


How do you believe that they have FAR surpassed us? I have to say that I wholly disagree with that also. Everything they produce has been copies and couldn’t have even happened without us.


Yes many of the ideas come from here, because USA is where the target market is.
But China can copy and put into production in weeks what takes us here nearly a year to do. And they can produce at a fraction of the cost that we do here. For many reasons.


Ben, I don't disagree with that other than to say I don't believe that means they have "far surpassed" us.



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Many of the ideas are now coming from China. When you are the ones building it you learn better ways to do it, more efficient and at lower cost.

What ideas?

China is working hard to be the leader in quality and innovation whether you want to believe it or not. They have went from just copying us to coming up with next new innovation.

Such as?

For those of you who do not believe it look at your own phone, your computer and even cars you drive. The heads and blocks, cranks, rods on most all factory cars are made in China now. Plus the computer systems that run those cars.

That they are making for us from our designs.

In the 1960's if you had a car that lasted 100,000 miles it was a good one. Now we do not even give them a tune up until 100,000 miles and we expect them to last 200, 300 or more. There are many reasons why cars last so much better now but fact is they last better, they are quieter, stop better, faster, better mileage and do not require as much work to maintain. Even things like front ends, brakes and tires are much better and last longer. Another fact is many of those things are made in China now.

With our technology.

Do not like it? I do not but that is the way it is and you need to understand the problem before you can fix it.




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I'm old enough to remember when MADE IN JAPAN meant stuff was crap. Now their stuff is better than ours. Kia and Hyundai (South Korea) make very good cars. And I've bought plenty of stuff made right here in the USA that turned out to be total crap.

WHERE stuff is made is not relevant. HOW stuff is made is important. Manufacturing jobs are generally not great jobs (sorry, they just aren't) and as long as our government is handing out free money, you'll be hard pressed to find companies looking to move manufacturing to the USA, because no one wants to work - that is unless our government pays them subsidies to move jobs here, which is another colossal scam that rips off taxpayers.


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