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DRR Top Comp |
Regardless of the outcome you did the right thing. https://postimg.cc/gallery/np3zpruo/ "Dunning-Kruger Effect" -a type of Cognitive bias where people with little expertise or ability assume they have superior expertise or ability. This overestimation occurs as a result of the fact that they do not have enough knowledge to know they don't have enough knowledge. Before you argue with someone ask yourself, "Is this person mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of a different perspective?" If not there is no point to argue. 4X NE2 CHAMPION. 2020 TDRA NE2 Champion | |||
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| DRR Sportsman |
So, if I am dialed incorrectly but can cover, I should notify the officials? Y'all can't be serious. | |||
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DRR Pro |
This happened several yrs ago so I hope my memory is correct. An inexperianced driver puts the dials in his box. He is quicker by .08 so he should be crossing over. They roll into the water and the dial boards have the same numbers on them. They both do their burnouts across the starting line. While backing up the inexperianced driver notices that the scoreboard has different dials. They show him as being the slower car by .05. He changes his box so he no longer is crossing over. They stage, let go, and this driver goes like .095 red, remember he was supposed to be crossing by .08. When we get back to the pit, I completely lose my dam mind. We approach the promoters of this track and show them what happened. The race was on motormania so we had recorded that run to show them. All they would say is that the scoreboard had froze from the previous pair and wasnt correct. Has anyone else ever heard that ? They did not re run, did not re instate this driver, and did not offer his enrty back. They brought him a couple of t shirts which I burnt later that night. They kept telling us the dial boards are the gospel not the scoreboards. They kept telling me that they cant explain it to my satisfaction. Well no **** !....So what would you all have done in a situation like this ? 4 X Track Champion ( 2 & 2 ) 2 X Run off Winner | |||
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DRR Sportsman |
I won't stage if either dial-in is wrong. Doesn't matter if I am the faster or the slower car. 72 Nova "Hooptie" | |||
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| DRR Sportsman |
If you can think quick enough to footbrake the car, every once in a while you could steal a round due to this concept. BUT.....It's not the right thing to do. If I win a round I want to do it the right way. I won't lie, cheat, or steal to get a round win. | |||
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DRR Sportsman |
At every track I have ever raced at, the rule was always that once you stage then you have accepted the dial ins and if the dial is wrong you notify the starter. I have never heard of a "frozen scoreboard" but whether it was that, a burned out bulb on the board, the girl in the tower screwed up, or whatever... once you staged and didn't bring it to the attention of the starter, it's on you. You tell the starter your dial is wrong on the board, he radios the tower, they tell him to tell you to disregard the board because its right in the computer and the pair goes down with no issue. Not looking to argue with you, just saying that is probably the reason the track made the call that they did.This message has been edited. Last edited by: BD104X, Billy Duhs - BD104X@gmail.com | |||
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| DRR S/Pro |
Bill you better ask the tracks your are racing at because the track I have raced at it is once you prestage. I had a buddy who insist he could prestage then catch it and he ok but turns out I was right and he was red lit. If you prestage and I don’t but catch yours being wrong they will correct it but if you prestage and catch yours being wrong you are stuck with it from what I have seen. | |||
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| DRR S/Pro |
If the track has operational dialin boards I won’t even start my burnout till they are correct. | |||
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| DRR Sportsman |
Good Point! My routine is to look at the scoreboards & the oil pressure gauge and then start bumping, so it probably wouldn't affect me either way but my point is, if SH1T IS WRONG, SAY SOMETHING! Billy Duhs - BD104X@gmail.com | |||
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| DRR Trophy |
As a driver you are responsible for checking the dials to make sure they are right. If you don't check it and it's wrong then that would be on you. Now I have said something about the other racer dial being wrong but to be honest if I'm the slow car I just glance at their dial and make sure it's faster than mine. I have missed it being wrong before. Now on the flip side of that. I know about half the tracks the scoreboards are horrible. During the day you are lucky to even make out the numbers but most of them have boards in the burnout box to see the dials. But a lot of races I have been to they have had big car counts and are trying to rush the program up. They get mad if you don't do your burnout when they say to. I won't do my burnout until the dials are on the boards in the burnout box. They will just have to get mad. | |||
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| DRR Sportsman |
If the track leaves the RT, 60 and 330 on during the race, do you saints not look at the board to keep the race "fair"? | |||
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| DRR Top Comp |
I agree once you have staged it is on and you have accepted the dial what ever it is. The question here is before anyone stages and then it is a courtesy deal but not a rule. https://postimg.cc/gallery/np3zpruo/ "Dunning-Kruger Effect" -a type of Cognitive bias where people with little expertise or ability assume they have superior expertise or ability. This overestimation occurs as a result of the fact that they do not have enough knowledge to know they don't have enough knowledge. Before you argue with someone ask yourself, "Is this person mentally mature enough to grasp the concept of a different perspective?" If not there is no point to argue. 4X NE2 CHAMPION. 2020 TDRA NE2 Champion | |||
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| DRR S/Pro |
Will the timing system work in the race mode and show these numbers just curious because I have never saw it happen. | |||
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| DRR Trophy |
I know some systems will. I have had it happen to me before. | |||
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| DRR Sportsman |
Green1, yes it can be done. The question is if it were happening would you even notice? Most racers don't. | |||
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| DRR S/Pro |
I have only ever been to one track that shows all that info on the boards and that was Farmington and I haven’t been there for probably 20 years. All the other tracks I have raced only show reaction time and et during time trials. | |||
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| DRR Sportsman |
I usually see it at N/T events that are using bracket racing as a filler class. | |||
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| DRR Top Comp |
You wanna catch this kinda stuff before you pull out on the track, for a couple reasons, one you don't wanna end up with a both cars staged on starter go on the bottom of the slip, in the event the starter makes a mistake resetting the tree when you point out to everyone involved, your opponents dial is wrong. And two,you don't wanna end up with a both cars staged on starter go on the bottom of the slip, in the event the starter makes a mistake resetting the tree when someone else points out to everyone involved, your opponents dial is wrong. You don't want a slip that says both cars staged on starter go, because most times it takes the starter a few seconds to figure out there's no auto start, and activate the tree manually. So yes, you wanna be honest and alert. It's best to straighten all this out before you pull on the track, eliminate variables.  This message has been edited. Last edited by: Mike Rietow, | |||
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| DRR Sportsman |
https://www.dragracecentral.co...ODRS-SUMMIT#indextop Forgot to write the last two digits on the window after wiping them off for a semi final heads up race. Tough way to lose. | |||
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DRR S/Pro |
Was watching S/P at our last points race and a buddy's time was put in at 75.95 instead of 7.59 it should have been. Because of this thread I wondered if the other guy was going to say anything but my buddy caught it first. This is usually only a S/P problem. In Footbrake I rarely know what my guy's ET is so I wouldn't know if it were wrong. I just look at the boards to see who is leaving first and how long I will have to sit there. ____________________________ 2017 and 2018 Osage Casinos Tulsa Raceway Park No-Box Champion 2018 Div4 Goodguys Hammer award winner | |||
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