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I don't share that cinical view on religious....but then I have faith. So I wouldn't.

I suppose I can accept cynical if you can accept hypothetical (synonym for make-believe). I believe in what I can see and is fact based. I chose not to participate in Psychological mind games supported by the emotions of belief and faith. Based on writings of ancient Bedouins, aka the Bible. We are a product of our environment. Is it any wonder virtually all Saudis are Muslim, Cambodians are Buddhist, and the majority of Oklahoman's are southern baptist, and you are at least a degree of christian? I'm not surprised.

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Originally posted by Canted Valve:

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I don't share that cinical view on religious....but then I have faith. So I wouldn't.

I suppose I can accept cynical if you can accept hypothetical (synonym for make-believe). I believe in what I can see and is fact based. I chose not to participate in Psychological mind games supported by the emotions of belief and faith. Based on writings of ancient Bedouins, aka the Bible. We are a product of our environment. Is it any wonder virtually all Saudis are Muslim, Cambodians are Buddhist, and the majority of Oklahoman's are southern baptist, and you are at least a degree of christian? I'm not surprised.

That's kind of the thing about faith. There is no proof. It's not EASY to have faith with no collateral to back it up. If there were proof, it wouldn't be a leap of faith. It would be a leap of hard analysis.

Curly is dead on with his post, Muslims goal is to take over the world, they are doing it right before our eyes!

I am not very Religious but I do believe in right from wrong and Church helped to teach that.

One problem is all honest Religions say they should love everyone and try to treat them with Respect, even our enemies. And that thou shall not kill. To some that means let Islam run all over them and kill them.

Obama said many times "Islam is the Religion of Peace" and he helped build Mosques all over the World. Plus Obama said should the winds turn against Islam he will stand with Islam. He told us what team he is on and he helped spread Islam throughout Europe, North America and Australia.

That will have long term effects for all future generations just like when Bill Clinton opened up trade with China.

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Originally posted by Canted Valve:

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I don't share that cinical view on religious....but then I have faith. So I wouldn't.

I suppose I can accept cynical if you can accept hypothetical (synonym for make-believe). I believe in what I can see and is fact based. I chose not to participate in Psychological mind games supported by the emotions of belief and faith. Based on writings of ancient Bedouins, aka the Bible. We are a product of our environment. Is it any wonder virtually all Saudis are Muslim, Cambodians are Buddhist, and the majority of Oklahoman's are southern baptist, and you are at least a degree of christian? I'm not surprised.

I can accept that most athiests I have met are a-holes. I'm not surprised.

Obama was and is a traitor to our country in every way imaginable.
I have never had a problem with anyone not having faith. I do think it is detrimental. But up to them. However, I run into athiests all over that have a problem with me having faith and want to talk endlessly about how they are right.

Ben, I have no problem with anyone who doesn't believe either. It's the endless condescension that gets on my nerves.

Atheism is a religion, and man are they ever enthusiastic about it.
I've found that if I have a question about the Bible, ask an Atheist.

I do not have issue with what anyone believes in. I do have problem when you are telling me how wrong I am because it is not the same. I do have issue when anyone group,religion or street gang thinks I am going to do as they says and believe or they will kill me. In that case I m not going to be only one with a problem.

Do as you please and I will do the same. Don't screw with family,dog, my property or me and we are fine. John Wayne in the shootist told Ron Howard to rules he lived by. Hrd to argue with John Wayne unless you are Commy or Muslim. Either just stay away from me.

See how simple it is to get along.

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Ben, I have no problem with anyone who doesn't believe either. It's the endless condescension that gets on my nerves.

Who here condescended you?

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Originally posted by CURTIS REED:
Ben, I have no problem with anyone who doesn't believe either. It's the endless condescension that gets on my nerves.

Who here condescended you?

Canted Valve was being condescending but not to me. I actually meant atheists as a whole though. Condescension is the typical attitude that I get from them.

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Originally posted by Bucky:

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Originally posted by CURTIS REED:
Ben, I have no problem with anyone who doesn't believe either. It's the endless condescension that gets on my nerves.

Who here condescended you?

Canted Valve was being condescending but not to me. I actually meant atheists as a whole though. Condescension is the typical attitude that I get from them.

Understood. I had to go back and read.

Everyone no matter what Religion or Atheist can be condescending if you do not believe as they do and will not change your mind. We have all been hounded by the Bible freaks who claim you are going to He!! if you do not listen to them and convert right now. I find it amusing how Atheist spend so much time trying to argue with us about our beliefs. They must not be very confident of themselves.

Condescending is one thing, killing you if you do not believe as they do is another.

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Everyone no matter what Religion or Atheist can be condescending if you do not believe as they do and will not change your mind. We have all been hounded by the Bible freaks who claim you are going to He!! if you do not listen to them and convert right now. I find it amusing how Atheist spend so much time trying to argue with us about our beliefs. They must not be very confident of themselves.

Condescending is one thing, killing you if you do not believe as they do is another.

That's the conclusion that I come to as well as far as their motivation.

As far as muzzies, I have a little different perspective. I think as a group, those from the middle east, regardless of their religion, are an unsavory group. But I don't think it has much to do with their religion. All religions including Christianity have historically been perverted by those who want to use it as an excuse for violence. The inquisition and holy wars come to mind. Blowing up abortion clinics in the name of God. The vast majority of practicing Muzzies have no desire to harm anyone else based upon religion. Most have no desire to take over the world. They come to our country for all the same reasons most people do. To get away from the arm pits they are currently living in. Are there some bad actors? Oh absolutely and they are particularly dangerous and have very bad intentions. Would we be better off an safer if we carefully scrutanized all foreigners who are wanting to enter our country? I think that answer is obvious. Have the muzzies polluted areas of our country where they are in high concentrations? You bet. Thats a failure of our federal government to protect us citizens IMO. Ours is a country built upon Christian values. If anything should be promoted, it is those Christian values. Not the values of those coming from the world's arm pits.

They are here, a leader was just caught at the southern border! How many haven't been caught?
Not a doubt in my mind that there are well organized groups all over the nation and if they are given the green light they'll cause enough mayhem to paralyze the entire nation!

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They are here, a leader was just caught at the southern border! How many haven't been caught?
Not a doubt in my mind that there are well organized groups all over the nation and if they are given the green light they'll cause enough mayhem to paralyze the entire nation!

The boy and I have taken up coyote hunting, mostly at night. I hear wild pig hunting is much better as they aren't as evasive. But Muzzie hunting could really be something!

China is a tightly controlled Country, they do not just let anyone in or out.

There is 27,000 young Chinese men who have come to America in the last few months. (That we know of) China sent them here. Doesn't that make you wonder why?

Islamic Countries are sending people here mostly young fighting age men. Wonder why?

Some South American Countries are emptying out their Prisons and sending those to America. Wonder why?

I wonder why Biden is Welcoming them in and paying them when they get here.

The American Red Cross and United Nations are helping to fund bringing them over here. Wonder why? I want to know why we are giving any money to those who want to harm us?

Seems like simple common se4nse to me.

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Originally posted by Curly1:
China is a tightly controlled Country, they do not just let anyone in or out.

There is 27,000 young Chinese men who have come to America in the last few months. (That we know of) China sent them here. Doesn't that make you wonder why?

Islamic Countries are sending people here mostly young fighting age men. Wonder why?

Some South American Countries are emptying out their Prisons and sending those to America. Wonder why?

I wonder why Biden is Welcoming them in and paying them when they get here.

The American Red Cross and United Nations are helping to fund bringing them over here. Wonder why? I want to know why we are giving any money to those who want to harm us?

Seems like simple common se4nse to me.

I mean.....I wondered why we were letting unvetted people into the country period. Then giving them money? The whole replacement theory is sounding more and more realistic.
As far as prisons....if I could get rid of my country's problems and not have to house or feed them...man what a deal! If I could give them to a country who I would like to have my prolems....even better! Is it realistic to think that some of the folks coming here are nefarious? Well yeah! Why would we not think that? When you don't vet them you are LIKELY to get exactly what you don't want. The amount of problems we will likely see because of all this could be staggering.

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Originally posted by Bucky:

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Originally posted by Curly1:
China is a tightly controlled Country, they do not just let anyone in or out.

There is 27,000 young Chinese men who have come to America in the last few months. (That we know of) China sent them here. Doesn't that make you wonder why?

Islamic Countries are sending people here mostly young fighting age men. Wonder why?

Some South American Countries are emptying out their Prisons and sending those to America. Wonder why?

I wonder why Biden is Welcoming them in and paying them when they get here.

The American Red Cross and United Nations are helping to fund bringing them over here. Wonder why? I want to know why we are giving any money to those who want to harm us?

Seems like simple common se4nse to me.

I mean.....I wondered why we were letting unvetted people into the country period. Then giving them money? The whole replacement theory is sounding more and more realistic.
As far as prisons....if I could get rid of my country's problems and not have to house or feed them...man what a deal! If I could give them to a country who I would like to have my prolems....even better! Is it realistic to think that some of the folks coming here are nefarious? Well yeah! Why would we not think that? When you don't vet them you are LIKELY to get exactly what you don't want. The amount of problems we will likely see because of all this could be staggering.

Even if EVERY SINGLE one of them was not here to cause trouble why are we paying 56 Billion a year to take care of these people when we have homeless AMERICANS on the streets?

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Even if EVERY SINGLE one of them was not here to cause trouble why are we paying 56 Billion a year to take care of these people when we have homeless AMERICANS on the streets?

Because 99.82% of those on the streets are there by CHOICE, they are useless to society.
No amount of money can help them.

Meanwhile we import a permanently dependent minority class, already primed for socialist life in a ****hole.