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Here is what I did. Mind you, I'm a HAM radio operator and IT guy.

I have 2 Ubiquity NanoStations set up as a wireless "tunnel". One is connected to the house network, the other goes to a hub in the shop. The average computer cannot connect to this tunnel.

These NanoStations are small-scale versions of what many Fixed Wireless ISP's use on their towers.

From there, I have a corporate-grade Ubiquity Access Point which provides wifi in the shop. I also have 2 more of them in the house - being corporate grade, your phone/laptop/ect will automatically "hop" from access point to access point as you walk across the house, and from the house to the shop.

The whole setup cost somewhere around $500. Each Nanostation was $80 (back before Ubiquity's consumer line got popular and prices went down), the Access Points are $100 each, and the TP-Link hub was $60. With prices how they are now, the same setup is closer to $300.

But it's rock solid reliable. Right now it's showing I have a 300Mbps connection.

NanoStation Loco 5AC - $50 - https://store.ui.com/collectio.../nanostation-loco5ac

UniFi Access Point - $110 - https://store.ui.com/collectio...products/unifi-ac-lr

TP-Link PoE Network Hub - $60 - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BP0SSAS/

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Originally posted by J Olejniczak:
Bucky: By any chance, do you have 3 phase power feeding your property? Also, how close is the barn to the shop?


No, and 50'


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Mr Magnet,
In the last picture, can those two pieces be replaced with a typical router?
like this: https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link...ronics%2C197&sr=1-20

Or do you have to add a small switch like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Etherne...QE2VR9541RDRH6W69MCB


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Mr Magnet,
In the last picture, can those two pieces be replaced with a typical router?
like this: https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link...ronics%2C197&sr=1-20

Or do you have to add a small switch like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Etherne...QE2VR9541RDRH6W69MCB


No, I was actually using a traditional router until last week (an Asus AC1300) in Access Point mode. I switched it out because i got tired of my phone getting confused what wifi to get on when I go back and forth every 10 minutes (first world problems).

At $30, that AC1200 would be great to use for what you're doing.

With that said, the Ubiquiti isn't the most user friendly for the average joe. It even took me a couple tries when I first set up the tunnel. Luckily, it's pretty hard to screw them up beyond resettable conditions. It's best to set them up inside though, then permanently install them after they are known working. It sucks having to run back and forth Wink. Now that I understand things better, they're not as bad, and other information sources are much better with tutorials than they were a few years ago.

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Thinking about these:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/prod...A27UZHF4R1YWN7&psc=1

Since the other seems to be sold out, and these are a tad less expensive too.
Regular cat 5 for connection? Adapters needed? Almost looks like there is a cat 5 male tail coming out of the units.


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Bucky: The Power line extenders do use the hot and neutral to transmit the signal. My guess is the signal is degraded too much at the shop since it passes through much cable, switches and contacts.
Now since the extender works in the barn and the shop is only 50 feet away, try extending a cat 6 cable from the barn and test it in the shop. This may be a viable solution for you. Several other solutions have been given in this discussion and will work as well depending on your direction you want to take.
 
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Thinking about these:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/prod...A27UZHF4R1YWN7&psc=1

Since the other seems to be sold out, and these are a tad less expensive too.
Regular cat 5 for connection? Adapters needed? Almost looks like there is a cat 5 male tail coming out of the units.


Yes, the TP's are very similar to the Ubiquity's. One of my client's facilities uses those for building-to-building and building-to-access gate communication. Knowing TP-Link, I bet they are a little more intuitive to set up though.

They should come with adapters that you connect Cat5 and power to one end, then data+power goes to the radio. It's super simple.
 
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Cool
Thx all!


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+1 for the unifi access points magnet posted. We employ 3 access points across 2 12,000sqft shops and thanks to the automatic "hopping" I can walk anywhere in the buildings and get a reliable connection.

IMO the automatic "hopping" is a highly underrated feature, especially in today's world of technology.

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+1 for the unifi access points magnet posted. We employ 3 access points across 2 12,000sqft shops and thanks to the automatic "hopping" I can walk anywhere in the buildings and get a reliable connection.

IMO the automatic "hopping" is a highly underrated feature, especially in today's world of technology.

-Dalton


I agree, Dalton. They are "cheap", simple, easy to set up, and no licensing like Cisco and others.

For alot of consumers, the hopping may not be worth much, but for folks constantly "on the go", it's fantastic.
 
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Well I have the two TP link devices. Going to do a dry run inside. I need to configure them next as one is hooked up to home router. Might need to watch a video on this


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I changed my computers ethernet static IP address. Trying to log onto the units to configure, but the ip address doesn't respond. Cleared the cache, turned off protection and firewalls. I'm missing something here.
Need someone a little tech savy. Help?


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If you are still working with the AV1000 devices, the TP_PLC utility software is the best way to configure them.

It's a free download from the TP-Link web site.
 
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What was the reasoning why you changed the IP? Wasn't it set to obtain automatically? Did you change it in the modem or within the network card?
Normally going from dynamic IP to static ip, you have to manually configure Subnet like 255.255.255.0 as an example along with default gateway example 192.168.1.1. of which the modem router if permissible. The DHCP assigns network addresses. Unless you want a static set IP.

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If you are still working with the AV1000 devices, the TP_PLC utility software is the best way to configure them.

It's a free download from the TP-Link web site.


I figured it out eventually. There was one thing left out of the instructions which I found online. They don't give you a default gateway. Once I put that in it was working. I had some outside mounts that I ordered. But I put one in the window at the house, and one in the window of the shop, and bingo we have just about perfect signal. So it isn't real picky about glass, although it probably compromises signal quality a little. Aiming also isn't real critical at this length it seems. I wasted some hours on configuration. But the rest was straight forward. I have just over $100 in the components. I'm pretty thrilled.
These antenna's are impressive. They say with careful aiming, you can go several miles.


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Decent support article here
https://www.tp-link.com/us/support/faq/710/
The entire IP address thing was a little foreign to me at first but once I knew where to go they gave you all the info to fill in. Just follow step by step.


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The best tool/utility is using the ping command.
This process opens up when entering the CMD.
Black screen.

An example would be..
ping 192.168.1.100.. Hit enter..

This will tell you the packets sent/received and TTL(Time To live) MS. You can actually ping any device on your network and check raw status/hops.

This is checking the network latency.

One thing to note with DNS servers. The issued
DNS server doesn't constitute its the fastest. I always look for faster DNS servers for the network.

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The best tool/utility is using the ping command.
This process opens up when entering the CMD.
Black screen.

An example would be..
ping 192.168.1.100.. Hit enter..

This will tell you the packets sent/received and TTL(Time To live) MS. You can actually ping any device on your network and check raw status/hops.

This is checking the network latency.

One thing to note with DNS servers. The issued
DNS server doesn't constitute its the fastest. I always look for faster DNS servers for the network.


Dude! I felt I was doing ok til that. LOL.
So where do you identify the numbers to use for pinging?


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Each network card has its own whether static or dynamic IP number. Like your 2 wireless units you just installed. The IP's will never be the same.

As an example., one unit will have an address like
192.168.1.125. The other unit will have an address like 192.168.1.126

Look under the network and internet. Double click the network card icon. Click details.Network connection details.

You can also use the command prompt CMD, Run as admin

Type in the CMD black box. netstat -a
This will show every network ip address on your network whether establish or not. Like on windows 10, you will see various ip addresses.

CALLING HOME

While your in there. Flush the DNS also

ipconfig /flushdns... hit enter. this flushes the Domains you have visited. Some don't want to leave your machine. Alway keep it clean.

In Win 10 using Power Shell. Type in

Clear-DnsClientCache (Hit Enter) Boom cleared.

I have one right now that some knucklehead put some malicious crap on a machine via VPN.

Found 22 foreign address that are trying to CALL HOME. Might be a wipe job.

Comcast issues numbers like 10.0.0.220, up or down. The 192xxx is considered a private network setting.

Another tool that is free out in the land of oz is call. Wire shark. It is a sniffer lol

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Not like Creepy Joe I hope!

Thank you I'm going to learn this stuff. I appreciate when someone is willing to explain it!


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