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DRR Sportsman
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Originally posted by WHOMPWHOMP:
They need one in the pits…


Open time runs, lanes close at time “x” and enforce it…. Instead of begging people to come
To the lanes for 45 minutes
 
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The time given should not be a big deal to 99% of racers… it is more than enough time.

The only problem that may be had is someone trying to be courteous and waiting on the other person to pre stage before they stage… this can cause both drivers to be out

It should also eliminate staging duals
 
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Regardless of what you’re driving there’s no reason you shouldn’t be able to stage in 60 seconds from the time the pair in front of you cross the finishline.

If you can’t do so, maybe you should stick to the test & tune crowd, fan your door 200 times in the pits, wiggle your azz in your seat , arm your cheating device, or wtf y’all do before pulling in the water box.
 
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Regardless of what you’re driving there’s no reason you shouldn’t be able to stage in 60 seconds from the time the pair in front of you cross the finishline.

If you can’t do so, maybe you should stick to the test & tune crowd, fan your door 200 times in the pits, wiggle your azz in your seat , arm your cheating device, or wtf y’all do before pulling in the water box.


100%. This should be no concern to anyone, even if you are in a dragster or made to wait 10 seconds for a dragster to go first. Way more than enough time.

I often wonder what people are doing for 15-20 seconds before pulling forward toward the prestage bulb. I’ve been slow a few times in the past, but I had to wait for the dials to be displayed before calculating the crossover delay.


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Sure there are reasons you can't stage in 60 seconds. Wrong dial being top of my list. Trying to get starter's attention for water, oil, debris on track.
 
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The real problems with the shot clock will be when some drivers are put back in the race and others are not.
 
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Sure there are some reasons why the shot clock must be stopped. Oil down on the track, cone knocked over etc. But I do think it is a good idea and hope it cuts down on the silly games.

Shot clock or not I am not staging if they put wrong dial on the board. As far as I am concerned that is on them and it does not happen very often any way. Only one time in the maybe thousands of passes I have made did they have the wrong dial.

If you know the rules and you get timed out then you have nobody but yourself to blame.

There will be a few who push it but I think quickly they will learn and the whole race will go smoother and faster.


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You can't have a shot clock and courtesy staging. Otherwise you wait til 59 and grab 2 bulbs while your opponent times out.
 
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I think the starter should have an active part in controlling the flow of the race. If he feels a racer or a pair is holding up the race, he should motion both drivers they are on a 15 second shot clock.
 
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The shot clock should start at both pre staged
and if neither one is in in whatever time is set they are both out no question.
Its the burn downs that are the issue.

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I think the starter should have an active part in controlling the flow of the race. If he feels a racer or a pair is holding up the race, he should motion both drivers they are on a 15 second shot clock.


Whie agree it is easy to see how favoritism could come into play. Real or just perceived.




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Now if clock starts after pre satage. I agree 100%. I have always thought burndown stupid. The only thing dumber is blaming the other guy for it when all you have to do is stage and let him think he has the upper hand as some think it means.




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Ironic thing the place I see need for clock for the whole run is in test-n-tune with small tire guys. Damn they worry about every liece of lint on track and trake two days to stage their lil POS. Act like they have 10,000 hp t ho0ok up. Have guy out front walking up and down track back and fourth and picking up hairs off track.




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They need one in the pits…


whomp wins ... call twice and send em. cut the lanes off at a point and azz draggers will make a better effort.



There ya go! So many times at Nat event I’m at the end waiting for my touring pro to get to the lanes…. They are telling me to hurry up with 15 cars in front of me and my race isn’t there yet!
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Will this "shot clock" be mounted on top of the tree so both drivers can see it when sitting in the water box ? Or will it be a hidden clock that only one person can see ?

And I agree, you can't have courtesy staging enforced if you have a "shot clock".

Well, maybe you can, but that opens up another strategy in the staging games.


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Motion used to have a clock on the tree. IIRC, when one car staged the other car had 20 seconds to get in.
 
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Will this "shot clock" be mounted on top of the tree so both drivers can see it when sitting in the water box ? Or will it be a hidden clock that only one person can see ?

And I agree, you can't have courtesy staging enforced if you have a "shot clock".

Well, maybe you can, but that opens up another strategy in the staging games.


I haven't seen it described verbatim, but I've been told it will be easily seen by drivers, they will know how much time they have.


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This race is months away and already people have a "plan" for it Eek
 
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I always wanted to do a backing up race.


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Sounds like lot of people just can't waste any time at the race track without being a Karen about it...what is the big hurry...you got to get home and mow the lawn or something???

Oh by the way...Racing IS a game, and not a production line.


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