I know big money races are all about entry numbers. Therefore, they allow a less stringent tech inspection of safety gear and cars. My question is, why are people okay with this? My local track, Indianapolis Raceway Park, is owned by NHRA. So, you must pass NHRA tech and have a valid NHRA License to race there. Because of this, I feel a lot safer racing when everyone takes safety seriously. Am I different than most people who think this way?

BTW… Unfortunately, big money races do not come to this track for the same reason. They've tried before. But after the majority of the cars did not pass tech, they moved the race to somewhere else.

You’ve said it, it’s all about the entries aka the MONEY. No one cares about tech/safety/cheating. All are good to go once you pay.

With the exception of an engine diaper to keep you from sliding into me when your rods come out, I don't feel any more or less safe by what the guy in the other lane is wearing. It doesn't affect me if you are wearing a -15 suit & a HANS or an open face helmet and nylon shorts... my safety equipment is up to date & in place. I have no actual statistics, but I don't notice any more or less crashes at a 4 day bracket race with 600+ cars making thousands of runs than I see at an NHRA National event. I'll go one step further and say that that if the NHRA's requirements were a little more reasonable, you may have more tracks & promoters willing to adhere to them. I mean, does anyone feel safer knowing that the NHRA requires racers to recertify a transmission case every 5 years?

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Originally posted by BD104X:
With the exception of an engine diaper to keep you from sliding into me when your rods come out, I don't feel any more or less safe by what the guy in the other lane is wearing. It doesn't affect me if you are wearing a -15 suit & a HANS or an open face helmet and nylon shorts... my safety equipment is up to date & in place. I have no actual statistics, but I don't notice any more or less crashes at a 4 day bracket race with 600+ cars making thousands of runs than I see at an NHRA National event. I'll go one step further and say that that if the NHRA's requirements were a little more reasonable, you may have more tracks & promoters willing to adhere to them. I mean, does anyone feel safer knowing that the NHRA requires racers to recertify a transmission case every 5 years?

I agree with most of what you are saying. I think EVERY car that has slicks should have a diaper.

There used to be several people who would wear the nylon pants when racing and there is nothing I can think of worse to wear if there is a fire. I catches on fire easily, melts and hard to put out once it starts. Not that defies all common sense yet they do it.

So yall feel all warm n fuzzy because the idiots at nhra make sure the guy in the other lane doesnt have an expired window net.

The very same idiots at nhra then turn around and let any ol' sand wedge get behind the wheel of whatever their non drivin talentless dreams are and ya dont mind a bit.....

Point is....

As usual yall are blind to the actual problem. It needs to be much harder to get behind the wheel.

Example:
Youre sand wedge a$$ wrecks one doin a burnout? Banned for life.

But in the meantime, keep takin your perfectly good glides out and sending the cases in if it makes ya feel good

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Youre sand wedge a$$ wrecks one doin a burnout? Banned for life.

Will certainly be considered for one of the best lines of the year.

SL... miss'n my buddy up North. Cya in Byron

I can agree and disagree with some of the safety rules, but there is a reason I slow it back to 6.39 at NHRA events. Totally agree with the powerglide certification. Stupid!

Some of the safety rules do seem kind of silly.
A few years ago,collector tethers were the hot topic,even though my collectors had tabs welded with grade 8 bolts securing them.
Had to get the collector tethers.
Nobody has even looked or questioned them for at least 2 years at any NHRA race I have been to.

Little tires in front big’uns in the back…SEND IT…

Accidents on record due to lenient tech .001%.

Accidents on record due to driver error 99.1%

Accidents on record due to parts failure .008%

Estimates are subject to minute changes.

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Originally posted by Boucher Jr:
So yall feel all warm n fuzzy because the idiots at nhra make sure the guy in the other lane doesnt have an expired window net.

The very same idiots at nhra then turn around and let any ol' sand wedge get behind the wheel of whatever their non drivin talentless dreams are and ya dont mind a bit.....

Point is....

As usual yall are blind to the actual problem. It needs to be much harder to get behind the wheel.

Example:
Youre sand wedge a$$ wrecks one doin a burnout? Banned for life.

But in the meantime, keep takin your perfectly good glides out and sending the cases in if it makes ya feel good

The ignorance in this comment is mind blowing...

At an NHRA owned track, I know each person has gone through the same license requirements as me. They take safety seriously like me. They follow the rules like me. Especially going almost 200mph in Super Comp now or when 4.60 is considered slow on a bracket weekend.

But go ahead and wear your sweatpants instead. I just question your morals because if you are willing to skimp out on things that keep you safe, what else did you skimp out on?

In the rulebook it clearly states that it is 100% the responsibility of the driver to ensure ALL rules are followed.

Sooooooo, society is to blame, not the promoters and track operators.

PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY

"But self government is soooo haaaarrrrrd!"


Quit letting Commies indoctrinate children, and NOBODY gives a F about your feeeeelings.

I got a son and grandsons to set example for so I comply with all the safety rules.

To me is individuals responsibility to comply regardless of track tech.

I can remember a time when tech guys hunted for reasons to boot cars/bikes over minor stuff to keep car counts under control.

I have developed no issue with diapers though never use with high end (solid internals) motor. I do use with backup motor due to 2 bolt block and factory steel crank. It is nowhere near as bad to use as I thought.

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Originally posted by Goob:
In the rulebook it clearly states that it is 100% the responsibility of the driver to ensure ALL rules are followed.



PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY

As Ed would say “Truth and facts” When I fill out an electronic tech card when entering a NHRA race thats exactly what it states when I digitally sign it before hitting send.
Than being said the only things I have been spot checked for was chassis cert, belts, helmet and SFI wheels once.

My local track is an NHRA owned track, on bracket nights there is no tech whatsoever just sign the waiver. Even when I brought my car out for the first time it had never been to any track before and I hadn't raced at that track in 5 or 6 years just sign the waiver and go...

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Originally posted by DragRaceResults:

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Youre sand wedge a$$ wrecks one doin a burnout? Banned for life.

Will certainly be considered for one of the best lines of the year.

SL... miss'n my buddy up North. Cya in Byron

Well shyt I picked a fine time to incorrectly use "your" like a common hobo then didnt I....

You betcha, Ill bring over some coors to sip on while I show off my new arm restraints and neck collar...

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Originally posted by Vince Kaiser:
I know big money races are all about entry numbers. Therefore, they allow a less stringent tech inspection of safety gear and cars. My question is, why are people okay with this? My local track, Indianapolis Raceway Park, is owned by NHRA. So, you must pass NHRA tech and have a valid NHRA License to race there. Because of this, I feel a lot safer racing when everyone takes safety seriously. Am I different than most people who think this way?

BTW… Unfortunately, big money races do not come to this track for the same reason. They've tried before. But after the majority of the cars did not pass tech, they moved the race to somewhere else.

You just answered your own question. Take care. Tom Worthington

It's interesting to watch the contingent that worship the rules. They wait with bated breath to comply with the new rules that come out at the beginning of each year. Standing on the higher moral ground. And that's fine for them, that's what they like and so that's what they should do. If the sanctioning body makes the rules then it's THEIR job to enforce the rules. The NHRA has been making rules since 1953. They should do like Trump did with bureaucracy mandates; for every new rule they have to erase two old rules. Certainly F1 is as strict as strict can be when it comes to enforcing the rules (big money). Pro baseball and pro cycling went through terrible times because the bodies didn't enforce the rules. Then it's Katy bar the door when they come down on the individual for trying to be competitive in a field consumed with "cheater".

I haven’t seen a tech line in years. Last time l was checked up in Div 1 they took my helmet apart while they passed a car with a missing lug bolt on a rear wheel.

Nice thread for someone with 14 posts, wow!

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Originally posted by Vince Kaiser:
I know big money races are all about entry numbers. Therefore, they allow a less stringent tech inspection of safety gear and cars. My question is, why are people okay with this?

A large percentage of the racers that participate in these higher dollar, tech is your responsibility races, probably attend their local N/Ihra events as I do, have been through tech and should know the rules.

Knowing this, sometimes I feel safer participating in these hi dollar events, than driving on the highway/ freeway roads to get to them.