It was 1 out of 5, 20% No question EV owners that only had level 1 charging and need the car daily would be disappointed. Buying EV if you live in an apartment is a problem. Can’t imagine dragging out an extension cord to charge. Would not be the first time someone buys something wo thinking clearly how practical it is for their situation. I know a few that have EV’s for commuting to work. Work place has charging and they have Level 2 at home. They love them. That’s the majority of EV users.
As to the future of Commercial charging stations, they are being build pretty fast. I see the fast charge 480v Tesla stations in many places around town.
This was in your linked article “Meanwhile, change is on the horizon. Tesla recently filed paperwork to open a drive-in restaurant at one of its LA supercharger stations (which takes 15 minutes to deliver an 80% charge), and 7-Eleven announced it will be installing 500 fast-charging connections at select convenience stores across North America.”
So I get Solar reports every month telling me how many trees we saved and how many homes we helped power up. So, how many TREES are they killing to power up these super sites? That’s what they need to hear! I would like to see The actual carbon footprint for building EV plants, mfg cars, battery builds and all charging sites. My bet is it’s not F——N Green!
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June 22, 2021, 03:54 PM
Bucky
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Originally posted by Bucky: I suppose I'm just not supportive in this way. I manage maintenance at a rural manufacturing plant. The guys with diesels we have long allowed to plug in when the temps are below 0 in the winter. We get this new chemical engineer come in, and his parents buy him an EV. Why he would tell anyone that his parents buy his cars I dunno. But next thing you know he's plugging into the plant power daily. I made sure that came to an end when I discovered that. The plant is buying his fuel to drive back and forth to work. Nope. Entitled SOB.
So Daddy bought him his car and he expected you to pay for fuel? Lol, what about insurance? His Daddy pay for that to?
I kid you not....he graduated from Bradley with a Chem E degree. He gets a job at our plant and his folks buy him a house. Then the car a few years later. He would stay up all night playing video games, and fall asleep in work meetings regularly. A real gem.
On your smart phone map. Type in “EV charging stations” and see what shows up. I did on my iPhone and see many. Wawa stations seem to have a bunch. It’s just a start, but an example of a gas station installing them.
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June 23, 2021, 01:05 PM
CHampshire
While Tesla makes some nice stuff, China car company NIO has it figured out in my opinion. The cars are cheaper because you lease the battery from them via subscription service. Their one sedan has 3 different battery sizes you can get to accommodate different mileage ranges. Rent the one you need when you need it. They claim over 600 miles on one charge on the biggest battery. Also, they are putting up battery swap stations. You pull in and they swap batteries instead of sitting and waiting on it to charge. They claim the whole thing only takes 3 mins. Obviously you can still charge them like others. Other than the fact they are based in China, and backed by China, I feel like it is the smartest of all the EV companies.
June 23, 2021, 02:44 PM
CURTIS REED
It was announced recently that this company is supposed to open a manufacturing facility in our state.
Whether is happens or not is something we will just have to wait and see.
June 23, 2021, 03:46 PM
adv ET 266
I refuse to buy a PRC made car with other domestic options available. I volunteer at a local bike shop, refurbishing kids bikes for a December give away to poor local kids. Having grown up in the 50’s and 60’s, it makes me sad to see the cycling industry in America gone. I refurbished 550 bikes last year and 260 in 2021 and have not seen a single American made bike in 3 years. This was not a government policy issue, it was a greedy CEO that sold out the workers to save on labor at the expense of thousands of jobs and an entire industry.
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June 23, 2021, 10:13 PM
Trans Lady
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Originally posted by adv ET 266:
This was not a government policy issue, it was a greedy CEO that sold out the workers to save on labor at the expense of thousands of jobs and an entire industry.
Really Paul????
Our tax dollars at work for China!
You do know a President has wide discretion to reduce imports?
June 24, 2021, 06:34 AM
adv ET 266
Well after that unrelated turn, here’s real unless you subscribe to obstruct plan!!!
While I can appreciate the technology, that's about as exciting as watching paint dry without the awesome sound of the internal combustion engine........JS
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June 25, 2021, 07:53 AM
J Olejniczak
Looking at the cost to operate a electric vehicle, some items were dismissed. The cost to insure an electric vehicle can be up to 45% more. Our wonderful congress does not want to add a per mile tax on electric vehicles at this time since they do not want to slow the sales of them. Eventually everyone with an electric car will pay that fee. Once the electric companies start upgrading their grids, you can guarantee we all will have our home electricity rates skyrocketing. In CT here, our service rates for electricity are more than double the electric rates. Plus the costs will increase once the Government subsidies end. Only then can you make a fair comparison.
June 25, 2021, 09:02 AM
Canted Valve
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This was not a government policy issue, it was a greedy CEO that sold out the workers to save on labor at the expense of thousands of jobs and an entire industry.
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Both CEOs and Government policies led to what we have today.
My take is, it's all on the government. CEO answers to the board of directors, and their mission is to maximize profits. If a milk toast CEO doesn't want to do what necessary the board will find someone who will, it's that simple. The government makes the laws and establishes policy and the rules corporations have to live by. If we want manufacturing here then make it (the laws) so it's unprofitable to manufacture overseas. It's the politicians, not the CEO's, that has sold this country down the river!
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June 25, 2021, 09:31 AM
CURTIS REED
Yesterday on the radio they were talking to one of our state officials about the tag reader toll road invoicing system they are putting into effect. Anyone who doesn't have our Pikepass will pay much more than those of us who do. One of the reasons for it being much higher, he said, is because they will be losing money from gas taxes that EVs won't be paying.
You almost can't leave Tulsa without paying tolls. LOL
