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posted March 24, 2025 11:33 AMHide Post
Another one that has been recommended to me is the Hobart 200 Multi Process. Those are about $1500 which is certainly cheap enough. Any thoughts?


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posted March 24, 2025 09:54 PMHide Post
Right now I am leaning towards the Lincoln 180 MPI. From what I can tell it is able to do everything I would need and the Lincoln 215 has same duty cycle and as far as I can tell no real advantages over the 180. Hobart 200 is quite similar. On paper the Vulcan from HF is similar but I think I would rather spend the extra $450 and get the Lincoln.

With the Lincoln 180 I should be all in for around $2,000 which I think is pretty good.


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posted March 24, 2025 09:59 PMHide Post
I guess I would want to know where it's made. If it was USA I might pay a little more and have any parts and supplies locally.


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posted March 25, 2025 11:15 AMHide Post
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Originally posted by double trouble:
I guess I would want to know where it's made. If it was USA I might pay a little more and have any parts and supplies locally.


Like all our vehicles. Assembled here with offshore parts. That really doesn’t make it “ American made” does it?


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posted March 25, 2025 02:38 PMHide Post
Pulled the trigger on the Lincoln 180 with the MIG and TIG set up complete. Will be all in for around $2100 and it should do everything I need it to.

Thank you for the help and suggestions and I will post in a few weeks when it gets here how I like it. Had to order it online as the complete kit is not stocked at store.


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posted March 25, 2025 04:28 PMHide Post
Would like to hear.


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posted April 06, 2025 10:06 PMHide Post
miller and hobart come out of the same place. Hobart is cheaper, they use less expensive components to build it-and they don't all have the same features.

Get a miller and be done.

Lincoln has a history of failing circuit boards, and it's often less expensive to replace the entire welder than the failed boards. I've had two of them fail, no more. Bought a miller on sale and it is has so far outlasted both of the lincoln's.

had a hobart 210 at work, pretty good welder. Same thing as the old style miller autoset 211 which is what I have, BUT the hobart uses plastic drive gears for the feeder, and doesn't have the same auto-set feature. Didn't figure I'd ever use "autoset" but it's pretty slick, once you figure out that you HAVE to use the right size wire and the right shield gas (75/25). Now it's just turn it on, choose the thickness material, and turn the knob to autoset, weld away. Wire speed automatically adjusts.

The newer miller inverters are a lot lighter, my 211 is like 75 lbs or so. Plus gas bottle. If I am outside welding fence or something, I use flux core since the wind can blow the shield gas away and that seriously affects welding.

the only downside to a mp welder is that some of them only tig on dc. Need ac for aluminum, and to me, the only tig i do is with alumimum anyway. Also the other downside is that if the tig part of the welder fails, it can be more challenging to get it repaired. For those reasons I bought the miller mig and an ahp tig, two separate machines. but at least you got a decent brand, and for the most part, service parts and consumables are easy to get for it.
 
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posted April 07, 2025 06:08 AMHide Post
I wish I had heard that BEFORE I bought the Lincoln. Never heard of any problems with the circuit boards.


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posted April 07, 2025 11:50 AMHide Post
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Originally posted by M802138:
miller and hobart come out of the same place. Hobart is cheaper, they use less expensive components to build it-and they don't all have the same features.

Get a miller and be done.

Lincoln has a history of failing circuit boards, and it's often less expensive to replace the entire welder than the failed boards. I've had two of them fail, no more. Bought a miller on sale and it is has so far outlasted both of the lincoln's.

had a hobart 210 at work, pretty good welder. Same thing as the old style miller autoset 211 which is what I have, BUT the hobart uses plastic drive gears for the feeder, and doesn't have the same auto-set feature. Didn't figure I'd ever use "autoset" but it's pretty slick, once you figure out that you HAVE to use the right size wire and the right shield gas (75/25). Now it's just turn it on, choose the thickness material, and turn the knob to autoset, weld away. Wire speed automatically adjusts.

The newer miller inverters are a lot lighter, my 211 is like 75 lbs or so. Plus gas bottle. If I am outside welding fence or something, I use flux core since the wind can blow the shield gas away and that seriously affects welding.

the only downside to a mp welder is that some of them only tig on dc. Need ac for aluminum, and to me, the only tig i do is with alumimum anyway. Also the other downside is that if the tig part of the welder fails, it can be more challenging to get it repaired. For those reasons I bought the miller mig and an ahp tig, two separate machines. but at least you got a decent brand, and for the most part, service parts and consumables are easy to get for it.



There is a ton of reading on where the offshore parts come from. It just reminds us why this nation is in this shape.


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posted April 07, 2025 07:43 PMHide Post
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Lincoln has a history of failing circuit boards, and it's often less expensive to replace the entire welder than the failed boards.

I came across that same scenario a few months back shopping cloths washers. I put a surge suppressor between the outlet and the machine.


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